00:00:06,100	On Monday. May 20th. I would like to call to order the Bismarck men and MP technical Advisory Committee meeting. Uh, we will start with roll call. Ben Eri. Here. Dan. Here. Deirdre Hughes here. OK? John Saki. Here Andrew stra chair Wags, greg Frazer Mitch Flanagan Natalie Pearce. Dean Schloss Wayne Zacker chair Luks.

00:00:42,270	Here, um, We have a very full table today. Welcome, everyone. And. We will start the meeting with review and possible approval of the minutes. What are the wishes of the board. That’s been I moved. I moved to approve the minutes as presented. Thank you, ben, I have a first. Is there a second dere a second.

00:01:05,000	Thanks, deidre Roll call. Ben? Yes. Dan sac Deidre Hughes gabe Shell John Saki. Yes andrew Stra chair Weakness greg Frazer Mitch Flanagan Dean Schloss. Yes, wayne Zacker Chair Luks Yes Minutes are approved. Um, Item two on the agenda is a presentation. Uh, for the potential approval of Bismarck’s, Um, pilot project.

00:01:38,470	Uh, this is with Ndsu at, uh, Sharma. I. See. You’re on the line. Um I’ll Let you get started. Would You like me to share a screen Or would you prefer to share screen? Um For my presentation. I’ll. I’ll share my screen. Very good. Uh, well, I’ll let you get kicked off whenever you’re ready. OK? Following some screens around here. Yeah. My own controls.

00:02:45,270	Can. You see my screen? We can All right, perfect. All right. Thank you, rachel. I’ll get started with the presentation here. Uh, my name is City Sharma. I am the associate research fellow for traffic operations at the Advanced Traffic Analysis Center, uh, usually known as a attack.

00:03:10,270	Which is part of the Upper Great Plains Transportation Institute here at N DS U in Fargo. And. I will talk about the pilot project that I completed for. Uh, city of Bismarck through the B MP O. A little bit of background on the Signalized intersection, Traffic data collection. Uh, I have Been doing that since 2012 here at AAC.

00:03:44,530	Uh, we started with one intersection up in Grand forks. And. Uh, now we have 160 plus intersections reporting data, uh to us, and, uh On our in our database. We have data going as far back as, uh, 2013 so historical information is also Being Saved and and stored for, uh, for analysis purposes.

00:04:17,070	And back in 2012, the the first intersection that we started was in Grand Forks and, uh, Uh II. I still remember Um Uh, dean Williams was the traffic engineer back then, and, uh, Um You know, uh, at at first. She, uh, wasn’t as as warm about the idea of, uh, collecting A turning movement counts and speed data from signalized intersections.

00:04:46,670	Uh, but that has we set up the the first intersection and, uh, when she saw the Uh, the the value in it. And now, uh, she’s she. She became one of the biggest pro proponents, uh of, uh, Signalized intersection. Traffic data collection and And.

00:05:12,870	Uh, I was able to kind of turn an opponent into a into a proponent during that, during that process. The data sources are, um you know anything? That Uh, can detect vehicles at the signalized intersections, including cameras. Uh, we have loops and we also have data coming in from the high resolution at SBM. Related, uh, data logs. For cameras. Uh uh, Manufacturers include con light.

00:05:48,470	Uh, autos Cope, Uh, we have various Aims of different cameras, Uh, reporting data to us from there. Uh, there’s ITN. Is a different kind, uh, type of camera. Um, cubic grid smart and then, uh, your vision traffic link is is also. Uh uh. A data source for us That’s part of an ongoing project. Not for, uh, business man. And. If. If. This map does not. Look.

00:06:17,830	Uh uh, familiar. Please contact Rachel. Uh, this is, uh, city of Bismarck man then, and, uh, I have Uh, all of the different intersections. Marked in a, uh in a pen with, uh, with the red.in the middle Uh, very collecting. Turning movement counts and speed data for for Bismarck. Or within Bismarck. I should say City of Fargo.

00:06:46,700	Grand Forks. I mean that district or City of Morehead. And the duty is Fargo. And city of Beco. So, those all kind of add up to to about 1060. So for this. Uh uh.

00:07:17,670	Baseman pilot, Uh, on the the tasks were for us to provide Uh, a A PC to put on Cities network that would talk to all of these different cameras and and help us, uh, download the the data that quite didn’t happen. We.

00:07:41,530	Uh uh, The the city was in the process of installing a a virtual server that was going to do that, as part of its Uh, purpose anyway, So, uh, they decided to give us access to that server instead of, uh, having a new device added on Ah! The traffic software installation. Um, we work with the city on that and give them a list and they they helped us install all the different kinds of software that we needed. And. Uh, we then set up the intersection detection zones.

00:08:05,400	Uh, Uh, for traffic data collection. There’s a little bit of work to be to be done there. I can, uh, I I’ll talk about that a little bit later. And. Uh, we check the the calibration at all of these. These cameras. And. Then. Everything was set up on the, uh, traffic analysis website and, uh Uh, we did.

00:08:27,430	Traffic data quality audits. And. Uh uh, installed API scripts that run every so often to to download data and then transfer that over. Um to The And, the Support Center server housed here at N DS U. And. Uh, the the websites all set up and the training and, uh, project report has also been, uh, completed.

00:08:57,330	So the deliverables in this project included the intersection Traffic Data Collection for the six intersections, the traffic PC, uh, kind of turned into a different uh uh Uh, task of working with the city and making sure we had everything on the the virtual server.

00:09:24,000	Uh, API agreements as required by manufacturer and, uh, the API script that we had, uh, created was was also installed. Uh, the traffic analysis to website set up is complete and and the training was also done. Uh, in class report has not already been approved. Uh, for this one. So.

00:09:50,200	We collect 15 minute turning movement counts, uh, at the intersections and speeds wherever they are available, depending on the Type of device detecting vehicles. Sometimes Speed Data collection is not Uh, quite possible. Uh, six intersections were part of the the MP O pilot and one of the biggest reasons for a pilot project is to create the connections between the agency and the the DOT support Center. Server that is held here at N DS U.

00:10:22,800	Uh, there’s multiple multiple hoops to jump through in creation of such connections, and once it’s done it facilitates. For example. The, the the two intersections that I’ve listed here, um are through our contract with the DOT where I go ahead and Set up the Uh, traffic data collection for intersections on state routes, which are You know

00:10:52,800	within other agencies, but not Uh, Not on the the the city network, uh, completely under the the city’s jurisdiction, so State highways. I can I can work on few intersections? Uh, based on the, uh, the the contract that we have with the ID, so two of those intersections Are ongoing.

00:11:17,830	On the intersection that we set up in this project are listed here. 43rd Avenue northeast at Arwa Laport Street, Uh, Bismarck Express. We had divide Main Avenue downtown intersections at 3rd and 5th Tyler Parkway at the burnt boat drive, and, uh uh, Highway 83 at 71st Avenue northeast. Uh, the last two states three that he eastbound and westbound, Uh, ramps.

00:11:41,200	Those are ongoing and I’m working on them. Uh, currently but, uh I was able to retrieve the Uh, going as far back as June of last year. Uh, with my with my attempt here. Uh, we? We faced quite a few challenges. Uh, during this pilot project.

00:12:07,500	As I mentioned there’s a lot of, uh uh, hoops to come through. They were, uh, equipment order lead time, um, issues which, uh, You know? Delayed the access that we needed. Uh And, then, uh, IP addressing scheme is being changed. Uh, because we found several, uh, devices that had the S IP address, which works and you know and everyday Kind of operations.

00:12:39,470	But when it comes to traffic data collection it it was interfering with the with the process. So. That’s, Um II. I believe that’s being looked at and and teas, Uh, at the city. Uh, fiber was not connected.

00:13:02,330	Uh into the, uh The City County building at the at the beginning, and then construction on the streets right around the building also delayed Um, some of the the tasks that we were working on. Um and, um this last bullet point is for network changes, which were done during the project, and we we lost the connections. That we had created and then we had to redo everything. I know from from Square one if you will.

00:13:31,200	Other challenges appeared, as as, uh, discrepancies in the data Now here we are looking at a 24 hour distribution of traffic. Uh, it? It does not look typical. We are looking at midday. Uh, you know, noon hour? Uh, 1 P.m. lunch hour. Traffic being less than 100 vehicles at the entire intersection. Um, so what we are looking at.

00:13:58,570	Essentially. Here is a six hour shift of the data This has to do with how clocks are set. On the devices, uh, out in the field nowadays, you know, there’s pretty much every every device is I be addressable and what that means is that it has its it again and it hasn’t can

00:14:20,330	maintain its own clock. Uh, but when those clocks Are not synced. Um To. A central source. Uh, all the time. We. We See data, uh, looking like this, but I was able to to go in it.

00:14:43,330	It’s a Long drawn, uh, manual process, but I was able to Uh, correct that information in our in our database and and then reimport it to look like the way it should, where we see the peak period during the AM, uh, that time and, uh Midday peak period during the midday time and P MP period during the the PM Peak time. Now I’m getting into. I. Also, I’ll.

00:15:08,370	I’ll just breeze through some of these slides, but we are getting into the, uh, the nitty gritty of it. Where when we find the the intersection camera at at first, uh, everything may or may not look, uh, as best as it probably should, Um, these two lines, Uh, the the these two kind of rectangles that we see on the screen here.

00:15:32,600	Uh, we’re supposed to be kind of in the Through lanes and this is part of the calibration of the the camera. So. It’s possible that since the camera was installed, uh, maybe due to winds that the camera has shifted, Uh, it doesn’t Necessarily mean that the calibration is off even if it is off, it might might not

00:15:54,870	be way off. Uh, but some of these measurements, you see, uh, iTunes 60 ft to to 50 ft. That’s just based on, um An aerial view. And? Uh uh, uh, kind of an online measurement based on where the payment markings are so The installers are eyeballing distances when they’re installing these cameras.

00:16:23,670	Uh, so you know the distances may be half a little bit. So, For example. This. This, Right Lane is wider than 12. Ft and II. I went ahead and and made those, uh, changes and and updated that These changes II. I should mention not only affect The Traffic Data collection.

00:16:49,600	They also impact day to day operations of these cameras and the signalized intersections so Any changes or improvements that I make to the calibration would Uh, bring both of those up and make it. Um, a more reliable system. At other times, uh, it has to do with the agree upon convention of these.

00:17:14,730	Uh uh, this the the zone ones at the intersection, so LT front is, for example it it’s not Uh, a convention that we follow. Uh, in agreement with the the manufacturer or the vendor. I should say, uh, in this case, so I updated those where we found them, Um, non conventional zone labels and also changed the the zone shape to cover the entire Lean, for example, in this case Another example of, uh, likely

00:17:42,670	a camera. That was Reed or, uh, just moved. After Installation so we we corrected. Uh, the the calibration in In those cases. Uh Z only label issue here, um minor corrections to the the the zones as well. Um Celebration issues. Um, zone. Liberland, uh, the the zone size and location was updated.

00:18:14,530	Um See over here, You know, um Some calibration changes there. So we whenever I go in, and I find something that’s that’s off. I make a correction, uh, in that, and, uh and then we also find locations where we don’t have zones and we need to have zones.

00:18:36,730	So, despite turn lane, if you can see Uh, and in in the screen. Does not have one of these green, uh, rectangles, which is a zone that can detect vehicles and Oh now.

00:19:03,200	Now at this far north intersection of and and a lot of times, even in town, the right turn lanes don’t have zones because the traffic signal controller, we don’t want it to Uh, Give a green indication when there’s only a vehicle in the right turn lane. Um so a lot of times they they they skip. Installing a zone.

00:19:32,600	Uh But the part of not Uh, giving a green indication when there’s a vehicle in the, uh in only in the right turn, lane can be handled programmatically. Um, so that’s what we did in some of the cases. And. Um uh, I think, uh, Be after slide got Skip there, but there is a A zone now in the the right turn lane. Here. And some of the wider approaches. We.

00:19:57,670	We find that there are vehicles lining up. To, uh Uh, in in two lanes. Uh, essentially making the the right hand turn as if there was a right turn, lane. So. Uh, I’ve added zones like that. As well. Minor team is here to the zone. Minor changes here to the calibration. So all of these things.

00:20:23,330	So here’s an example of the right turn another example of the right turn lane, which was added on during this project. The Uh, but was was absent to to begin with. This won’t impact. The day to day operations as they were even before. Uh it would just help us with The, the traffic data collection. Minor, Um Uh, calibration changes.

00:20:51,130	And then this would be an example of another approach where vehicles were seen turning, right. Uh, as if there were multiple lanes and, uh, dedicated by journal, So. We added, Uh, a right turn lane detection zone there. Minor changes to the calibration, so it it’s cases like this where we don’t find something that’s way off.

00:21:14,070	Uh And. Then. There’s cases like I’ve shown before where we Are. We find things that are we often be can be correct them. Celebration changes. Celebration changes. And then uh uh, A lane. Where, um A zone was was mislabeled in this case. Uh, So we changed that. That Park be burnt drive. Uh, some minor changes.

00:21:46,730	And, Uh, Here’s the the interesting part where we Manually count the data for an hour and then try to compare that to what the Detection devices give us if you can kind of some the, uh, third last and the second last, uh, role here where I have the the manual hourly counts compared to the otoscope count, which is the

00:22:12,200	the manufacturer of, uh, the the model of the camera. And these, um At these locations. So. We can we can see that, Uh, we’re matching, uh, very well and in most cases, what I found? Is that that the camera seems to me.

00:22:36,900	Uh, over a longer period of time if you average everything out and and compare to manual clouds or other sources, uh, the camera undercounts by maybe 1.5% or 2%, but it’s well within 5% of of The actual counts out in the field. This one’s Main avenue. Third grade. I park, a burnt boat drive.

00:23:05,270	Um, and some of these counts can get tricky to the match, especially in terms of, uh uh, D. A, left turn leans and and such And, uh, If. We wanted to improve those numbers we might have to to bring him or even reposition the camera. But. Even, then it’s it’s well within. Uh, Rather than the limits.

00:23:28,600	As part of the E, uh, as part of the project, we have email notifications going out to, um Uh, you know, traffic engineer and and other departments of the city, letting them know if there are intersections that don’t have up to date data. And, then, uh, there’s the traffic analysis tool.

00:23:56,370	Uh, website, uh, that that that has been set up for running reports and this data goes also into the the North Dakota traffic volume dashboard. This is something that my, uh, supervisor Grant runs here has created We. Uh, data from all of the different sources, including NP OS cities is is displayed as one.

00:24:18,870	And you can you can look at historical information as well and see how your, uh Traffic counts have Uh, grown or decade over over time. I can go into these websites and and and and demod if time permits. Uh, but some of the tasks that were pending previously during the the project delivery meeting, uh, have been completed now. API task. Uh, it.

00:24:42,970	It took the longest because of the, uh, network changes that were implemented and we we lost the connection to the virtual server. Uh, final report, as I mentioned is completed, and, uh We could now be be looking at some of the next steps in terms of adding more intersections. And uh, I know, we we have a connection with Bismarck. Uh uh, Going back to our server.

00:25:04,270	Perhaps Mandan could be brought on board, uh, with with some, uh, pilot project type of, uh, intersections for download, uh as well. So if, um uh If there is time I can go into Uh, a traffic analysis tool. Demo. If not, uh, I’ll hand it back over to to Rachel.

00:25:28,730	Thank you, Sharma? Um, is there a desire to go over the tool now? Uh, Alternatively. We could set up. Uh, another Meeting with those who are interested in learning how to run reports on the traffic analysis. One second OK, All right, um Sharma. I.

00:25:52,830	Don’t think you caught that? Um, but Derek is preferring to have a follow up meeting to go deeper into the reports so I’ll help facilitate that, uh, after attack today. Absolutely.

00:26:16,770	Um, but with that, um, Are there any questions on the final report? OK? Thank you, rachel? Not so much a question more just to Gratitude and thanks both to the MP O and to to Sharma and his team at N DS U, uh, putting this together. I mean we kind of picked six. Difficult and dissimilar intersections to see how it worked using at the time of third party vendor to get communications back to the city. We got one that we’re out right directly on the city’s network.

00:26:33,330	We had higher speed facilities, lower speed facilities We tried to grab, uh, a smattering of options to see how it worked in different scenarios to understand. Is this the right tool at all of those places, But. Um so we thank you for for the effort and and charm When you summarize the challenges.

00:26:46,270	I think you did a good job because we were in the midst and still are in the midst of changing our our network relationships with our devices and moving some of our traffic. Signal infrastructure to its own network for security reasons.

00:27:00,270	You would think with us all being on the state’s network that would have been easy, but you talked to different agencies and Each of those agencies wants all of those things secured appropriately and so just getting permissions and getting the ability to to see this data and to port it over to a different server.

00:27:16,630	I was also definitely a challenge as we undertook this project, but, um, once again, it was a good proof of concept. It helped us understand what this what this does. Well, um, super jealous of those communities of of Grand Forks and West Fargo and Fargo that they just have all that data at their fingertips, And this is our first step to understand. What. Does this look like here.

00:27:30,570	How, would we do it if we went to that spot, Let’s Before we try 100 of them. So once again thanks. Thank you, babe? Yes, absolutely. And. Uh, some of the challenges that, um, for, unfortunately, continue.

00:27:52,970	Uh, throughout and even beyond the, uh beyond the project, So, uh I appreciate all of the the Cooper operation that we have received, Uh, from the city. You know various departments, not just engineering. There’s. There’s too many people involved here to to list and then um, uh, some of the issues that we are currently facing, Uh, even after the API task completion, which is the script to automate the data download, uh, process for us, Uh, even

00:28:13,130	With, the the corrected IP addresses. It’s, uh, it’s not downloading data, and I’ve I. I suspect that there are some firmware issues that might be Uh, you know, fixed some bugs that might be fixed here in the the near future.

00:28:36,130	Uh, through the by the manufacturer, and we can then install the the new Software on these, uh, devices and hopefully, uh, fix some of those issues. Thank you again? Sharma. Ben, You have a question? Yeah. I think Sherman and gabe, you and your team for exploring this. Uh, I did have a few questions. Sharma is the is the way you’re collecting data.

00:29:02,330	Is it able to parse out cars versus trucks. That’s a very good question. So. Uh what we can do? And. Uh, we? We haven’t quite tested. Uh uh, on the model of the cameras that Bismarck has, uh, is that as part of the the broad data that comes in vehicle length is reported.

00:29:30,600	And I don’t know quite the accuracy of the the vehicle land, but If if there’s a L based classification that is agreeable to all involved, including the DOT MP O and, uh, the the various cities. Uh, absolutely that can be applied. Uh and, uh, the the data from that can be can be done.

00:29:59,930	You know, uh, Added on to the traffic analysis to website and we can, we should be able to run different reports from that, uh as well now, um Uh, I should also mention the the type of cameras that city of Bismarck has now and, uh, the ones that were set up during this project. Um, they provide for vehicle information. So for each vehicle.

00:30:25,670	There’s a row in Under our data file and and the vehicle length is is part of it. Uh, some of the previous models of the camera, and here we are getting into, uh Issues where Not all of the features were kind of carried over into the newer model, the the older one.

00:30:49,070	Uh, had the ability in build in the data collection part where we could specify OK, give me classes a through E and, uh, these are the the lens. Uh, it would, uh, bend the data for you. But, as part of, uh Going into a per vehicle file. I think that that part was kind of not carried over.

00:31:06,130	But yes, Uh, Vehicle and is part of the data already in the data that has been collected. And be reprocessed going as far back the data goes, uh, for these cameras to to capture that, So, Um all we would need is, uh, an agreed upon length based classification. Scheme. Uh, to to go for with that? Yes. Oh.

00:31:32,230	That’s great Thank you, Sherman. That’s exciting. Um, a couple other questions and Maybe. This relates to the experiences in ground Works and Fargo and Wells Fargo where this has been going on a little while, But, do you notice? Uh And and maybe maybe what is the trigger for if if the cameras are You know,

00:31:53,170	change position if they’re not recording the data correctly, is, is there a way to to catch that, Uh, sort of almost in real time or, you know, do you? Do you have you encountered any of those issues in the other communities with with maybe the data not Collecting as as it should be. Yes.

00:32:15,000	So, um Uh, Another project that I’m working for the DOT through. Uh uh uh, The. The AAC contract is to look at, uh, images from these, uh, traffic detection cameras and from city of Bismarck we are capturing for these intersections of, uh, images every 15 minutes, So they are, uh, kind of processed and then they become part of a,

00:32:41,800	uh uh, intersection. Uh, images dashboard where we have the the the most recent image. Uh and then, uh, rest of them are kind of deleted. And. Uh, we just have the the most recent one but part of my other project has to do with object detection.

00:33:05,330	So in an image if we see a vehicle that that is identified, it can be then counted as as a vehicle in a particular lane. Perhaps, Uh and also we have images where there are no cars in the view. So what I want to build from from that is the ability to compare that to kind of An older image where everything was good.

00:33:28,170	And now, if if this new image has Has, some shifting going on to to trigger an email out to the stakeholders, including ourselves to to be able to do something about that. It wouldn’t be as um Uh, it might not be as real time. Uh, maybe. 15 half an hour. Uh, delay in there. And.

00:33:52,200	Uh uh, Windy days might impact the the determination as well because the camera unfort. Unfortunately, These cameras don’t have optical. Um Uh, they? They Don’t have, uh, physical, uh, stabilization built into them. So. If.

00:34:15,230	The camera moves the lens moves with it, and, uh, there’s there’s not even an optical, uh, stabilization built into them Where, you know, uh, it would correct for that, after the fact. Um, so, yes, that That’s something that’s kind of, uh uh, a project. That that’s ongoing here, uh, at NSU. Oh, great that that’s good to know. Sharma. Thank you. Then last question.

00:34:37,630	It might be more for us or for for gabe or or whoever, but, um This was a pilot project. Is there any Yeah. I mean there? Maybe you need time to digest the the results. But, is there Is there an intent to go forward with more permit? Uh, collection of Based on what? We we found out. Uh, Ben. I. Guess I can speak to our our thoughts at the moment anyway.

00:34:56,270	Um, so good project is definitely an undertaking. And. As Sharma said some of the kinks aren’t worked out. Especially when we have these, you know different controller types, different cameras different. Same manufacture but different ages different ways that we’re connecting to those We don’t have really connection at all of them anyway. So. That’s Our.

00:35:12,330	Our priority is getting communication out to all those, uh, signals. And once we have that full communication, we can bring that into the office to be able to do things like this with but I think our first priority is getting that fiber connection getting that connectivity to them so that it opens up tools like this to

00:35:26,130	start. We also have, um Central Signalized. Uh, information through through a vendor that has some data reporting to so trying to understand is that data reporting similar or different than what what this pilot project does.

00:35:43,200	And and once we have a a firm grasp on both of those tools be able to make a decision in a plan forward. Mhm and I can speak to the the number of, uh, intersections that are already, uh, connected. I think there’s at least a couple dozen intersections that already have, uh, connection.

00:36:06,230	And, uh, can be, you know, barring the six or eight that we’ve set up here? Uh, the rest are available for, uh, for inclusion in in a pro in in a follow up project. To to this Well. Thank you, Sharma? Uh, Andrew. You have a question? Yeah.

00:36:29,230	Thank you, rachel, This is, um, an interesting project Has it been tested on like on signalized like roundabout type intersections, One of the major intersections in Mandan that will probably continue to study is a roundabout. Um It would be interesting to have automated traffic counts. So does it work on roundabouts? Does it count things like bikes and pedestrians as well. Um are two questions that I have Yeah. Yeah, Absolutely.

00:36:53,670	So, uh, 11 of the One of the things that are different in terms of roundabouts versus signalized intersections. Uh, Is that you know there’s not going to be a signal and then the detection devices are kind of a subset of what is installed as part of a signal. Uh uh, as part of a traffic signal.

00:37:19,530	Uh, There are, uh, locations, uh, even within the state where it’s not a civilized intersections, and they have been out of outfitted with with these Uh, detecting devices to to collect that data it it essentially acts as kind of a pseudo intersection where it’s not, You know, giving you Um Green time allocation. It’s not going to be, you know, stopping traffic. Uh uh, but it at the same time.

00:37:43,470	It can collect, uh Count the way I see it working at Uh, roundabout is it would It would be able to count traffic coming into the roundabout at the four. Let’s say It’s a four legged, uh round about, uh, every approach you can.

00:38:06,270	You can Count the traffic it won’t be able to determine how many of those kind of turned left or turned right. But at the approach, you should be able to to capture the total number of intersections. Uh, total number of vehicles entering that that leg, which in itself is is a useful Um Uh uh, uh, Useful Data point.

00:38:28,670	Um, and there is directionality built into these, uh, cameras so there might be a chance of, uh, being able to count the exiting vehicles as well. So. There’s definitely something that can be done. Uh, with that data. And to your question about, uh, bicycles and pedestrians? Yes? Absolutely these these these, uh, latest ingredients.

00:38:54,800	Cameras can Uh uh, uh, bicycles and in fact There is a functionality. I’m not positive with it has been turned on or if there’s a, uh, a good location in Bismarck to turn that functionality on, Uh, say if if you’re in an at an approach, maybe a minor approach and you’re on a bicycle, and there’s no other vehicle.

00:39:15,730	Um On on your approach or even the opposing approach because sometimes those, uh, those phases are tied together. Uh and, uh, there’s a functionality in these cameras that it can detect the bicycle and then allocate your green it the protocol into the controller based on the fact that there is a bicycle at the stop bar waiting for gra, Uh so,

00:39:37,270	yes, it can, uh, see bicycles and motorcycles. Uh, separately and in turn. Uh uh, What, you call into the controller and also count them. Um These cameras can go as far as, uh, replacing the well, not not not so much replacing.

00:39:59,930	I should say, but, uh, maybe augmenting the the push buttons at the pedestrian push buttons at the intersections. Um, so in that they can detect vehicles in the the pedestrians. I I’m Sorry pedestrians in the landing zone. Uh, at the end of the You know the crosswalk and then put a call into the controller for that pedestrian phase. It can also count pedestrians.

00:40:21,870	Uh, I don’t think that has been turned on. Uh, for Bismarck. Uh, perhaps we are talking about different, you know, tasks for, uh, the the next project in in, um in in continuation of this tr traffic data collection, But on the crosswalk, I. I can create zones. And.

00:40:43,800	Uh, it should be from that point on be able to Count the number of pedestrians going either way so it can detect detect, uh, the pedestrians going in and you know, invest to east or or or or east to west or or right to left. Direction So. Yes. These cameras are capable of counting. Uh, pedestrians on crosswalks as well. Yeah. I. Appreciate that I. I.

00:41:08,970	Wanna make sure that the new lights that we’re putting up in town, especially on these state sponsored projects are, um, set up for success with these sorts of data collection, so maybe we can follow up on What it is necessary to make sure that we’re not doing things duplicative and that with new projects were set up.

00:41:25,870	I don’t know what Timeline would be to make this a standard thing, but it seems like on Very expensive projects. Very busy intersections. This is something that should just be a standard.

00:41:46,930	Um Type of Technology installed with? Yeah, that could be part of an RFB, You know or, uh, the the intersection design, uh, as as well and it might already be, uh, part of that, yes. This is chris Holzer. Uh, I’ll just chime in for my previous job. I know there was a desire For. Some of those Mandan signals to get connectivity. Um It seemed there was Staff changes fairly regularly. Uh, a justin was leaving. Mitch changed jobs.

00:42:14,100	Uh so it never Got off the ground, but they were hoping to have Remote communications to some of their signals. Um, as far as I know. In march when I left my previous job, there was no traffic signals with remote communications in my death.

00:42:36,070	When Um, also, if you’re looking for a bike, pet Conner away from signals. I Know Metro Co has purchased a bike pad counters. As as part of their CPG and procurement process, So if there’s areas around that, um, could benefit from those bike bed bed counters you could get in touch with Fargo and kind of see how Dan does does that there and because that

00:42:56,730	went through the MP O there, the MP OS Conner, and then they’re kind of loaned out to the cities or, um, as part of studies that type of thing so Um, well, I think that is a very good idea. Andrew, and perhaps there are some opportunity to follow up with the state.

00:43:17,470	Uh, since, uh, Memorial Highway is coming up as a project that there would be opportunities to still look at that. Um, of course. I don’t know what the timing is of those scope items. Um, but it’s worth asking. Um, since we are in advance of the project. Uh, well, very lively discussion.

00:43:36,200	Thank you everyone, Um, were there any last comments or questions for Sharma? I see no comments or questions. Uh, what are the wishes of the board regarding the final report? Move to approve as presented. Thank you, Dave, I have a first. Is there a second? This is Jericho second, Derek. Thank you for the second? Uh, we’ll take roll call. And E.

00:44:00,830	Yes, Dans Yes. Deidre Hughes. Yes She? Yes, John Zacky. Yes Andrew’s driving. Yes Jared witness. Yes. Greg Fraser. Mitch Flanigan. Yes, Dean Schloss. Yes. Wayne Zacher chair Lukaszewski. Yes. The airport is reproved approved. Sharman.

00:44:27,000	Thank you so much for your time today and I will follow up with you and the engineers on the reporting meeting. OK, and I do have other, uh, meetings lined up? Uh, so I’ll, Uh, I’ll disconnect here And. Uh uh. Again, please feel free to contact us. Uh, if you have any, uh, follow up questions or or requests. Very good. We. Definitely will thank you, Sharma. Thank you.

00:44:52,130	Um, Item three on the agenda is with me, Uh, possible consideration of the 2024 pavement condition collection and analysis. RFP. Uh, this, uh RFP will be to evaluate the, um Uh, the condition of the asphalt or concrete that is on our functionally classified roadway Network, Uh, this collection is a routine collection we last collected in 2020.

00:45:22,930	It would be our hope to collect, uh, this year. Uh, for that information to feed into, um, future work, um, but particularly into future analysis for, uh, our next MTP, uh, which will have a base here of 2025. Um, exhibit B in the packet is the RFP. This is our standard RFP.

00:45:45,600	There’s just a few things I wanted to highlight for the consideration of T. A. Um first, is that, um like our 2020 effort, this will be a dual project. It will include all of the NP OS functionally classified roads. Uh, this will be the NPO portion of the study.

00:46:07,330	Uh, there will be a secondary portion, uh, funded by the city of Bismarck to collect, um The pavement condition on all of their local roads. Um, I believe last year or Excuse me last time in 2020. They selected a particular set of roads, and now they are requesting review of all their local roads. So. Um, as happens from time to time, this study will be in two parts.

00:46:28,130	Um, we may have a three way contract. We may have two contracts. Um, that will be determined between the MP O possibly, uh, Gabe or his assignee and the, uh, eventual contractor. Um Uh, but, uh, on on that note of having the two part project.

00:46:53,800	Uh, the MP OS portion will cover approximately 220 miles and the city of Bismarck’s portion will cover approximately 260 miles. Uh, the MP S cost, uh, the cost for the MP O portion will be 100 and $10,000 or a budget not to exceed that, uh, the cost for the city of Bismarck portion will be 100 and 30,000 or a cost not to exceed that.

00:47:14,000	Um I believe there will be some cost sharing on things like deployment. Um possibly, uh, uh, general expenses of the contractors as they are here doing their work? Uh, however, the actual cost to collect the roadways will be divided. Um, uh, for the MP O roads versus uh, the city’s local roads. Um, on our selection committee.

00:47:43,430	We will have the city of Bismarck, the city of Mandan and Morton County. They have confirmed their placement on that, Uh, the NPO will also be a moderator. Uh we are open to having city of Lincoln or burly county if you have time.

00:48:03,670	Um, however, uh, we understand if that is not within your, um Within your workloads right now, Um, proposals. Uh, assuming that the RFP is approved, Uh, this RFP will be, uh, put on the state solicitation site on Wednesday and proposals will be due June 12th. We’re hoping to have interviews. June.

00:48:32,100	I’m Sorry, July 19th or around that date And, then a collection will occur in mid to late September through OC. Hopefully, uh, once construction is mostly completed and before there is snow on the ground. Um, you will note in the RFP that we are missing Figure one as well as the clauses. Um, figure one has been created.

00:48:52,300	It will be included in the final RFP that goes on the solicitation site, and we will include the appropriate cause causes. Um, when we send that to Wayne for posting Um, with that, uh, I can take any questions that you have on the project. Um, if there are no questions, is there a motion to approve the RFP? Just gave some of I think you, Gabe. I have a first.

00:49:16,370	Is there a second? I second that Thank you, Andrew. We’ll take roll call. And Erin? Yes. Yes Peter hughes. Yes OK, Michelle? Yes, John Zacky. Yes, Andrew J wi is greg Fraser? Yes, Mitch Flanagan? Yes. Dean Schloss Yes. Wayne Zacker? Yes, rachel Lucas. Uh, yes. Uh, the RFP is approved.

00:49:44,530	Uh, item four on the agenda is the addendum to the A Master agreement. I’ll also be describing this item. Um, it is listed as exhibit C in the packet on page 51. If. You’d like to look at it more closely, um Uh, the addendum to the master agreement will be to evaluate, uh, particular model runs that are used in our NTP.

00:50:06,400	Uh, up Until this point AAC has been working to create the model and to calibrate the model, however, within the MTP, we will be selecting, um, a certain, uh, cohorts of roadway projects and we want to understand how those cohorts of roadway projects might impact a future network.

00:50:29,500	Uh, so for the next Months And according to this, uh addendum, um Uh, the contract will be amended so that we can run those additional models with the roadway cohorts and then that information will be fed back into the MTP, uh, for a review by the steering committee review by the public, um and and that information will eventually lead to recommendations of which

00:50:51,870	roadway projects should be promoted as priority within the MTP. Uh, the cost of the addendum is $23,825 and, uh, this is within our budget for a tech modeling for the year. Are there any questions on the addendum? A G go ahead. R. It looks like in exhibit C.

00:51:20,230	There’s reference to the consulting firm that did the work last MTP and not the one that’s working on it now, so I’d recommend that that’s just updated for the policy board. Signature version. Thank you we’ll make sure that gets adjusted Any additional questions or comments. Uh, Wayne. Because there been any Indication or anything. Concern of meeting the deadline that you’ve put on it.

00:51:48,070	Um mily asking because I just signed a contract with them to do the initial, uh, base year model for subject. Lata MP O, so just to make sure that timing I, I’m assuming it can be handled, I just wanted to make sure that they didn’t have any concerns with the timing that, uh, they’ve put on themselves for

00:52:07,430	this model or this version of it, So. Yes. Thanks, wade. Um, I am assuming not I’ve been in contact with CMO within the last week. I know the consultants have already been, uh, proposing those cohorts, Uh, projects.

00:52:25,530	Uh so I would think we could get this, uh, wrapped up within the timing of the contract. Right. Uh, if there are no additional questions or or concerns, Um are there wishes from the board for approval. I would move to approve with the changes, as suggested. Thank you, Gabe. I have a first. Is there a second? This is Ben all second Thank you, ben Roll call. Yes, Dan? Yes Peter hughes.

00:52:55,270	Yes, she Yes, John’s hacking Yes. Andrew ST Chair wag. Yes Greg Fraser! Yes Mitch Flanagan. Yes Dean Schloss Yes wayne Zacker. Yes chairs. Uh yes, the addendum was approved. Item five on the agenda is the Bismarck Mandan NPO self certification with Steven Stephen, will you need me to share screen? Yes, please. There will be exhibit D.

00:53:42,200	OK, it should be sharing now. I think. Yep. That’s good. Thank you very much, Rachel. So The This should be just a fairly short routine update for you. The Bismarck Mandan MP O Self certification is required by a united States code.

00:54:01,930	We certify every year that our planning processes are carried out in accordance with federal law and that our MTP and transportation improvement program Are consistent with the same laws. The self certification is required to be updated at least every four years. But we do it every year as part of the tip development and we are attempting to get our draft tip.

00:54:22,200	Uh, for the next, Uh, four year cycle ready a little earlier than normal this year. So this is coming before you about a month earlier than it would ordinarily, uh, so self certification declares compliance, uh, for us with current highway bill legislation. Uh, specific. The antenna areas, including MP O operations and functions.

00:54:44,670	Air Quality Control title six and civil rights, the disadvantaged Business Enterprise and five areas of non discrimination. So after approval of the self certification we send this to ND DOT for approval and inclusion in our next tip. Are there any questions? Thank you, Stephen. Any questions for Stephen? You. Go ahead. Just a quick one. Stephen. You said that it’s required every four years. But you do it annually.

00:55:03,370	Can you maybe just illuminate why that’s the case. Yeah, it’s true online with the Our tip is also only required every four years, but it is updated annually and it’s also just a, uh Uh, administrative policy that we have to make sure that we’re keeping up to date on legislative changes that may impact this type of thing

00:55:24,400	because of it. We only did it every four years. It’d be easy to lose track and fall out of compliance. Thank you. Thank you, Steven Any more questions? Um uh, with that wishes of the board. Approval. Yeah. Um oh, Andrew. I have the first from Andrew and Ben 2nd 2nd from ben. Thank you roll call, please.

00:55:51,930	Ben Earth? Yes. D. Andrea Deidre Hughes. Yes! Yes, john Sack. Yes Andrew Stra chair. Yes greg Fraser. Yes Mitch Flanagan is Dean Schloss. Yes, Wayne Zer. Yes Chair Ki. Uh yes certification is approved. Uh, item six on the agenda is an update on the arrive. 2050 MTP with Jeremy Williams. Uh, Jeremy.

00:56:21,800	Are you still with us? OK, uh, I think you might be muted, Jeremy, but I do see your camera. OK Jeremy. If. You’re having trouble with your microphone. Um Perhaps, uh, leaving in return. It might reset. Will give you just just a moment. Hey, Rachel.

00:57:08,300	I actually have another meeting that I have to jump off for at, uh, 11. Is there any way I could just go while he’s working on that? Um, yes. Please do. Sounds good. I’ll be very quick on mine. I, So we had a a follow up on our steering committee meeting. So. There are some workbooks that are out with that steering committee group Right.

00:57:24,870	Now that will be getting back on Wednesday. Those were, uh, really the identification of the five different hotspots. And then, uh, we have a number of, uh, public input. Uh, opportunities coming up so on the 31st, we’ll have a small pop up. Uh, actually at Ministry on the margins in the morning and then I in late June.

00:57:48,930	We’ll be hosting our open house, uh, where we’ll really be showing off some of those, uh, hotspots that were identifying Think blue. Are there any questions for Blue on his update? I. Don’t see any, uh, any questions for you? Um, thanks a lot for for hanging with us. Of course. Thanks, Everybody have a good day.

00:58:12,730	You too. Jeremy. I apologize. Blue had a meeting conflict. So. Um we let him jump on there Very quickly. Um it looks like you are unmuted. Let’s see if we can hear you now. OK. Yeah, it might come through. OK. Now. You are coming in loud and clear. OK, wonderful. Yeah.

00:58:33,630	Sorry about that microphone issue. I’m not sure what was going on there, but, um Yeah So anyway, just a few quick updates on arrive. 2050 MTP. So I guess, starting with the travel demand model documentation sounds like, uh, Jason had presented on that last month, and there were some comments received by the T.

00:58:51,730	Uh And, so those are being worked through right now In. Those, Uh, revisions are being made to the document and so once those are made, uh and Documents reviewed one final time We will be able to deliver that to the group. Um and moving on to public engagement.

00:59:10,030	Uh, there was, uh, April 29th public open house at the Bismarck Y MC, a And along with that was the launching of the online public meeting, which will be open through May 29. Uh And then in addition to that, there, are it. We’re working on planning? Uh, July 3rd booth at the at the event in, uh in Mandan. Um and moving on to goals and objectives.

00:59:31,500	Uh, we presented an updated goals and objectives at the last steering committee meeting. Uh, got some feedback on those and are making further revisions to kind of move along and move towards finalizing the goals and objectives for the 2050 MTP.

00:59:47,400	And, so we’ll be able to discuss those at the next steering committee meeting, which I believe, uh, is scheduled for May 28th And A along with the goals and objectives. Uh, the HDR team will take, uh we’ll begin the prioritization approach based on that list of, uh, project alternatives that we’ve been working Through developing and so that will also be presented at least AAA first cut of the prioritization approach will be presented that may 28th

01:00:10,200	steering committee meeting as well. And, then, uh, last item would be funding so the team has worked through the, uh, an analysis of historic tip documents and, uh, working on developing that baseline funding assessment for the MTP and so right now, just kind of wrapping up the documentation, which will, uh, undergo an internal review, Hopefully at

01:00:30,330	the end of this week. Maybe at the beginning of next week, and then we will be able to turn around and deliver that, uh to the MP O and steering Committee for their review. And. So yeah, that’s all I have. Very good. Thank you, Jeremy.

01:00:45,800	Are there any questions from the group on the MTP Update Um I. Don’t see that we have any questions, but we appreciate your update and and I also appreciate your, um willingness to hold hold with the adjustment in the schedule in the agenda, So. Thank you for that. Thank you all. All right. Well that covers items six and seven of the agenda.

01:01:09,530	We will now move on to item number eight, which is an update on roadway projects. Um, I think we’ll just go through each jurisdiction and, um, if you wouldn’t mind to let us know any update on current construction projects. Um, Dan, why don’t we start with burly County? No update at this time. Right. Thanks, Dan.

01:01:34,170	Um, greg, Is there anything to update for on LinkedIn. OK? Um, gave any update from Bismarck. I would like Dean to go first to know which one dean does. And then if he doesn’t do them, we’ll talk about it. But. Many of them are DOT projects.

01:01:50,130	I just happened to be in Bismarck, so I’ll let him go first. If you don’t mind? All. Right, Dean? You have that I defer back again. Um So I. Guess you know, 161. They just did the northbound lane closure. Um they’re just moving dirt right now stripping topsoil and jacking some pipe.

01:02:08,730	It’s Pretty, uh, boring, but the main thing they’ll be doing for the next couple weeks is just moving all the the brow. Dirk in Um, some of the ninth. They switched traffic. Uh, they closed the east, uh, part of the roadway, so they’re working on that doing the, uh Um Pedestrian, Uh, updates and doing some removals there. Marsh. They just proceeding the same as they have been.

01:02:30,130	It’ll be fairly similar for quite a while, so we switch traffic. Um and then I. Guess. We got State Street, which we should be finished with the call should be coming down. They’re just waiting for secure time on the concrete. What did I miss gabe? State Street trail hasn’t started, but that will be another project.

01:02:49,030	That’ll start from, uh, Calgary Avenue North 2 43rd Avenue in the next couple of months here OK? Well. Anything else then? Yeah. I. Guess I’ll add, um Upcoming ones. We also have a Tyler Parkway trail from Cogburn Road to Ash Cooley drive. Um, that’ll is funded through T a dollars, so that’ll be this summer as well.

01:03:09,670	We have an urban grant project a mill and overlay on Third Street and Rosser a avenue primarily in our in our downtown area. That One also hasn’t really started yet, But. By the time we have our June update. I’m sure we’ll have a more more to say where where it’s already been under construction for a week or two.

01:03:23,130	By that point Um then our biggest one this summer is our South Washington Street project from Burly Avenue North. To, the South Bismarck drainage ditch. That project is underway. Uh, traffic is only southbound on there so you can’t go north on that particular roadway. Um until probably later in this construction season.

01:03:41,200	Uh, so right now we have traffic on the existing roadway as they’re moving utilities, private utilities, the fiber optic lines, gas lines, et cetera that are impacted by the project.

01:03:57,230	Currently, uh, the contractor working on building the temporary road that we’ll use for the majority of construction, which was located where the trail used to be on the west side of The right of way. Um, set up Once. That’s ready. We’ll start moving traffic once again southbound only on that temporary road And then we’ll really start going on the rest of the underground work and, uh, road. Components within Washington street itself. Thank you. Dean.

01:04:17,100	Thank you for that update, Um we’ll cross the river. Uh, Jed. Do, You have any updates for man, dan? I. Guess the big one would be eight Eighth Avenue Northwest between old road Trail and 24th Street, just west of the new high school site, Um, they just started, uh, working on the reconstruction of that segment and, um, high school sites ongoing right there local roads

01:04:35,270	associated with high school site are ongoing right there, So. It’s kind of, uh, a lot going on in a small space. Yeah. Would be nice when it’s finished, though. Um well, thank you, Derek. Um uh, John or mitch, are there any updates for Morton County? We typically don’t have anything for Morton County. Yeah.

01:04:58,670	No updates in Morton County. All, Right. Well, thank you. Um with that we’ll move on to other business. Um, are there any items for other business that you’d like to bring to the table? Um, well, NPO staff does not have any other business, either. Uh, so, with that I will call us adjourned. Thank you for attending today? So. We don’t