00:00:14,870	A couple a couple of Your mom. It’s, uh, 515 on May 28th. We’re in the Tom Baker room of the City County building. This will be the border city commissioners. Uh, but first we have invocation as chaplain Heen Feld could come forward and then we have After that the pledge of Allegiance.

00:01:04,200	Shall we pray? Heavenly. Father, we give you Thanks for all your blessings. We were reminded yesterday that many of the privileges and blessings and gifts that we enjoy Are the results of men and women who gave their all For what we experience. We. Thank you heavenly father for the privilege of living in America.

00:01:31,870	This evening is our mayor and members of the City Council come together to transact the business of our city. We. Ask for your guidance and leading I prayed for the men and women here tonight who have stepped forward to be servants of the citizens of Bismarck. I pray for those who have chosen to serve our community.

00:01:53,700	And those who will be elected to serve That. They, too will be individuals who seek to best Represent and serve our people. I prayed for the many members of our law enforcement community, and we asked your protection. Body, soul and spirit. And. We include all first responders, fire personnel. Ambulance personnel and dispatchers. That.

00:02:23,770	They will sense your care protection, encouragement and blessings. We. Thank you heavenly father for the wonderful health facilities and hospitals, clinics. Another health related support systems available in Bismarck. And. We pray for the safety of hundreds and thousands of our Children and students who are now or who will very soon be on summer vacation. That. You will protect them.

00:02:50,300	Now Heavenly Father. I ask for this group of leaders. That. They will apply themselves to the task of making wise prudent. And courageous decisions that reflect good and wholesome conclusions. And when they do face the wall or deep chasms of decision making.

00:03:11,700	May, they be reminded the truth found in James, Chapter one and verse five. Which says, if any of you lacks wisdom To guide him through a decision or circumstance. Here’s to ask of our benevolent God. Who gives to everyone generously and without rebuke or blame. And. It will be given him. We. Ask all this in the name of your son Jesus Christ. Amen.

00:03:43,170	They mean I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And the Republic for which it stands one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Chaplain. Thank you, sir. Will not call our meeting order if we can call roll Mister Marquardt here. Comm. Comm. Connelly here. Comm. Cleary here, Mayor Schmitz here.

00:04:15,970	Our first item is, uh, public comment. It’s restricted to items on the consent agenda or regular agenda that is not a public hearing item. So. Anyone who wish to speak, Please come forward. Say your name And. Which item you’re talking to Sign in as well. Thank you, Mr Mayor Commissioners. My name is John simmers with Bismarck Aero Center.

00:04:55,700	Uh, I’d like to request an opportunity to discuss item three F on the regular agenda, and, uh, just kind of Uh, it’s very important to our current lease. It’s very important to our development agreement. Uh, with the airport and the city of Bismarck, and I, Just. Wanna.

00:05:11,330	First of all Ask Is that something we should be discussing now or we’ll have an opportunity to speak on that later during the agenda. Um, certainly, I think you This is This. Is it time. I guess we have to see what commission does After that. I I. Think. Many of you had op opportunity.

00:05:29,970	I’m not sure you’ve had a chance to read it over the weekend, but I did prepare a statement and distributed that Friday. Uh, everybody get a copy of that. I have a copy of it here, if needed in front of me a couple of extras. Um The purpose of my statement is to oppose the development agreement.

00:05:47,900	Listed as item three F on the agenda regarding the request by Executive Air Taxi Corporation. Um In October of 2022. This Commission approved a development agreement to allow Executive Air taxi to build a 260 by 100 and 20 ft building. Uh, I believe the commission approved the development agreement without being provided all the necessary facts to make an informed decision.

00:06:13,170	Uh, a few months prior to that in June of 2022 prior to executive Hes Development agreement. Uh, this very commission also approved a development agreement with Bismarck Aero Center. That has several areas of conflict with the executive Air Taxi. Development agreement. Uh, most notably, the Bismarck airport has promised the same parcel of land to both parties through development agreements.

00:06:35,930	And, Um but But today I think what’s most timely, uh, is regarding the development agreement and how it includes a lease extension provided by the city of Bismarck, the Bismarck Aero center as it relates to the city owned building. Uh, in the parking lot associated with that building. And. So if you look in your packet, I think on the third page.

00:06:55,370	You see a diagram of that, says January 2024 at the bottom of it. And, uh, I have kind of an orange blotch there that indicates the the area that we’re describing here. And so if you look closely 85 is the building that we have, Uh, based on the legend.

00:07:20,430	It’s labeled as number Building five as the building that we have a an extended lease and parking lot agreement on Um, that’s a city owned building and that’s impacted by this development. Uh, most of you are involved in small businesses of your own. And. I ask you to imagine that the you know your city government provides a lease to you. And within months of your signature.

00:07:44,130	Uh, approves a separate process that displaces your parking and allows your direct competition to build in your parking lot. The New building displaces direct visibility and access to your facility and redirects all traffic to your competition.

00:08:06,400	By, allowing executive air taxi to develop this area, while Bismarck Aero centers occupying what is called building 22, or labeled five on that diagram. The City is allowed development to impact both visibility and parking. That’s vital to the safe and convenient access to the facility. Uh, frankly, the development agreement cuts off accessibility to not only our business, but airport access to general aviation users. Examples of general aviation users.

00:08:28,530	Um, that will be impacted include local businesses. Local state and federal agencies, emergency responders, air, ambulance and other outside business and pleasure travelers. That bring significant commerce into our community. Furthermore, the construction process, and our climate is typically slow. And.

00:08:56,130	As a result we believe a two year construction schedule is not realistic, um, which would create additional hardship, uh, to our organization over a period of two or more years. Were concerned that airport officials have not been transparent with not only executive air Taxi City officials but also our organization Bismarck Aero Center. We’ve pleaded with airport officials over the past 11 months. On this issue as it relates to airport development, fairness and transparency.

00:09:19,370	We do not believe the airport has acted within the best interest of the city of Bismarck. Bismarck, Errol Sanders provided important solutions and great compromise to this issue that would allow all parties including the city of Bismarck, executive Air Taxi, uh, to receive fair and equitable treatment are compromised solutions allow all parties involved to get what they want.

00:09:43,100	Uh, during our time visiting with airport officials on these matters. We’ve been challenged with providing solutions and we have done that, and our solutions have been ignored. So I wanna be clear that we’re not upset with Executive Air Taxi over this, Um, you know, um it’s clear in our proposed compromise is that we understand their need to expand.

00:10:04,900	We’re asking the commission tonight. We’re asked that the commission does not approve this request as the issues related to airport development are much bigger than a 20 ft extension request. Um to Executive Air Taxis development agreement. In fact we feel like if the agreement can be amended to add an extra 20 ft.

00:10:23,500	Uh, it’s fair that the agreement can be amended to contract to a smaller footprint as what was originally communicated. Uh, to us during our development process, and so frankly, we’re asking the commission to re evaluate the commitments that have been made to both parties.

00:10:40,630	Um, we believe a fair solution is with within reach, and we’re willing to do our part to compromise. Are there any questions? OK? Maybe later. I’ll stick around. Thank you. Thank you. Again. This is public comment period. Anyone who wishes to speak, Please come forward. Identify yourself and Let US know which topic Second call for public comment. Third and final call for public comment. Hearing and seeing no further public comment.

00:11:30,770	Public comment period is now closed. Commissioners. What are your wishes with regard to the consent agenda. Move to approve as presented. Second Is there any discussion? N will call roll. Mr Zinker. Yes, Mr Connelly? Yes Commission Cleary? Yes Comm. Marquardt Mayor Schmitz. Yes. Moving to the regular agenda.

00:12:02,230	First item is A public hearing for a new class C two hotel motel alcohol license. This is a public hearing request for that license. Uh, from Let’s see here. Merlin Hotel group LLC doing businesses days in in Bismarck at Capitol Avenue 1300 East Capitol Avenue. Again. This is a public hearing Anyone who wish to speak this topic. Please come forward. Second call for public comment.

00:12:28,430	Third and final call for public comment. Not seeing or hearing any public comment. Public comment period is not closed. The Comm. is what are your wishes? Move to prove, as presented Second It. Is there any discussion? Hearing none will call roll. Comm. Connelly. Yes Commission. Clear Yes Commission Marquardt. Yes, Yes, yes.

00:12:55,930	Next item is another public hearing on a new this on a new class E sale for retail retail, a beer only alcohol or liquor license. For Tri Energy Cooper doing businesses Try Energy Cys Expressway at 38 01 East Rosser Avenue. The public hearing anyone who wish to speak to this Please state your name and sign in. Hello.

00:13:18,770	I’m Sarah cider. I’m, the retail operations manager for energy. And with your approval. We’ll, um, be doing a full remodel of this store. Um, a 1500 square foot addition for a bed room and extra storage and I think you’ll really, you know, Help genre help generate some additional revenue for us.

00:13:46,970	Anyone have questions? Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Again. There’s a public comment period for this item Anyone wish to speak to it. Please come forward. Second call for public comment. Third and final call for public comment. Erin and seeing no further public comment. Public comment period is now closed Commissioners.

00:14:25,430	What are your wishes move to prove Second Is very discussion. None will call role. Mister. Cleary? Yes. Mr. Marquardt? Yes, Mr Zenker. Yes, Mr Connelly. Yes, yes. Next item public hearing for a new class I two complimentary alcohol license for Rainbow Nails and Spa at 722 South 26 Street. It’s probably common. Anyone, who wishes to speak on this topic. Please come forward.

00:14:53,830	Second call for public comment. Third and final call for public comment. And see No. One public comment period is not closed. Commissioners move to approve. Second Is there any discussion? Hearing no call roll. Mr. Marquardt? Yes? Yes, Mr Connelly? Yes Comm. Cleary? Yes, Mayor Smith? Yes.

00:15:38,900	Next item is Next item is consider request receive an update on the half cent sales tax and, uh, and assign that Tyler Parkway extension as the next House on sales tax funded project. And begin pulmonary engineering, Gabe. Thank you Good evening mayor and commissioners at the share link up for one second here.

00:16:08,970	All right as the mayor, uh, indicated the item I have before you is the, uh, update on half cent sales tax where we’re at, Uh what that fund or what the those that balance looks like and then make a request to assign Tyler Parkway as the next half cent sales tax project.

00:16:25,500	So, for everyone’s reminder, Uh, the absent sales tax is for arterial road construction and reconstruction was passed in 2018, and the collections began in the second quarter of 2019. So far we’ve generated $43.8 million through 2023, and it does have 10 Year sunset. So by the time we get to 2029 this this fund will no longer this tax will come off the books unless it’s extended, um, at some point in the future.

00:16:44,170	All of the projects need to be on corridors that are highlighted here in Blue are 43rd Avenue Ash cooly Drive Corridor Centennial Road Main Avenue State Street from Calgary Avenue North 1804 slash 71st Our South Washington Street corridor from burly avenue to South Bismarck drainage ditch.

00:17:05,300	We have a chunk of Century Avenue from Centennial Road to 66 Tyler Parkway from Valley drive to 57th and then also 57th Avenue from Washington Street to State Street. Projects that we Have moved forward with or committed to the construction are all highlighted in yellow and outlined in red.

00:17:25,230	Um so the ash Cooley 43rd corridor that segment of Tyler Parkway where we put pavement on top of the roadway that the county highway Department from burly, county graded and graveled State street improvements that are under construction last year and into this year up at seven.

00:17:42,970	Excuse Me 64th Avenue were funded through the half cent sales tax and then our current construction project of South Washington Street from burly avenue to the South pic drainage ditch and then our program. Century Avenue project from Centennial Road to 52nd that will come online next year. So just kind of zooming into what those some of those look like. For those that are unfamiliar with what this happens in sales tax has really done for our community.

00:17:57,830	I think it’s worthwhile to pause and reflect Sometimes. We’re always focused on the next project, and it’s good just to reflect and look at a a fun map of what could have been all blue lines that are a combination of blue and yellow, which means we actually have accomplished some some good work out there.

00:18:11,230	Uh, this is the North, Uh, half of Bismarck, I’d say with the years of construction, um will give props to Burle County in the in the burly county Highway Department for the segment of 33rd Avenue between 26 Street and Roosevelt Drive that they did on their own.

00:18:27,330	That is not a half cent Sales tax funded project. Um, but it was a a reconstruction of that facility. So for all intents and purposes, we’re not going to touch it again with with additional dollars for a while here, um, newest additions to this map would be in that bottom right corner Showing Century Avenue, Uh, extensions in 2026 that programmed project. So.

00:18:46,430	Here’s the SA Me projects listed then with with what we’ve constructed, it’s It’s either. A. The blue line is the actual final costs. Uh, that we’ve used the yellow highlight are the contracted cost. You can see.

00:19:03,600	Some of these are still in various phases of construction, so we don’t have final numbers for them and then our green ones at the bottom. There will be what you’ll see in the 2025 to 2029 C IP, uh, with our construction costs, the engineering design and engineering costs.

00:19:23,770	Uh and then whatever federal or state aid Were able to use uh, in these program, which gives us a net nail, Uh, sales tax cost of the difference between what the construction prices have been, uh less what the federal or state aid has been in this program. So you can see, uh, the summary of $92 million worth of committed or constructed projects, um, so far with $18.5 million of federal state aid. So looking at that over time.

00:19:43,600	This is one of my favorite charts that I get to update on an annual basis or or even more than that, Uh, lists the project costs in orange that will be a A negative on this chart a anticipated have set sales tax in the gray, which shows what we’ve collected those years.

00:20:04,370	Um, I’ll, I’ll and then the estimated balance of just the difference between that, um Collections less what we’ve spent in those projects is what the that blue line over time is. I put a couple of caveats on here. The anticipated have sent rails half sent revenue. Um, is the actuals up to 2023. So. From that point on we just held the 2024 25, 26, 27 and 28 revenues flat.

00:20:23,400	Um, whether or not it stays there goes up a little bit goes down a little bit. At this point in time we feel confident that we’ll collect enough money in this program to pay for whatever projects but we will get to a point that we need to either slow that down.

00:20:36,530	Wait for it to actually accrue before we spend the dollars or or come with a different funding program. Uh uh, less that we end up spending more than this particular particular, Uh, tax collects would want to mention too. That Project. Cost is the year that the construction took place. But.

00:20:54,670	There are various, um, federal dollars and those federal dollars come in that might have came in a year after or or even two years after the, UM project was completed, so point taken being, uh, our 2024 project. In South Washington Street, uh, does have federal aid allotted to it $4.

00:21:14,830	5 million, but that money will not show up until 2026 so that money once we receive in 2026 for all when I’m looking at this, uh, just gets backdated to the the year of the construction that took place, but, um, so there might be a a different cash flow than Then, uh, if you took into account the year that that federal dollar was received But it does show here in 2026.

00:21:33,230	Based on all these estimations that by the end of 2026, we’re kind of even like we have. We’ve paid for all the projects that we’ve done. We’re not in the hole. We’re not in the black. We’re just kind of really No. No Balance One Century Avenue project is completed.

00:21:46,600	Which brings me to the request that I have before you is to talk about what that next project should be and whether it’s done in 2026, or 2027 could be debated. But. Uh, what I would recommend was the next project is the Tyler Parkway extension across Tyler Cooley. This would take us from Valley drive north to Cogburn Road. It’s about 3000 ft of Corridor.

00:22:07,170	In this particular area of town the it would be an urban extension is how we would envision this so we would pull that typical section from South of Valley Drive, the curb and gutter streets with with the sidewalk lighting, etcetera pull that type of section across the coolie and into Tyler Parkway, uh, to at least Cogburn road is how I’m

00:22:26,300	envisioning this, uh in instead of pulling What is Tyler Parkway north of that south with it. Everything north of Cochrane Road is a rural two lane section. Uh, with no lighting on it.

00:22:45,100	Currently there will be a trail constructed is part of a parks and rec and DOT funded project that will take a trail from Cogburn Road, uh, north to Ash Coole drive. It’ll be constructed yet this summer so this project would tie in nicely with the trail connectivity on Tyler Parkway as well as the trails that are existing on East Valley Drive.

00:23:02,170	Um, should note also that we would look for opportunities to tie in some of those wreck trails that you’d find, um within the coolie itself, Uh, using any aerial photo you look, you can see a whole, uh Network of paths, not improved trails, necessarily, but, uh Powers. Nonetheless the public are using and recreating try to find ways to integrate those into this project.

00:23:19,800	Uh, so this embankment that would cross East Valley or the that would cross from East Valley Drive. Um, it doesn’t look as an impediment to that wreck use but really an additive in trying to connect more people to that trail network.

00:23:36,830	This project would be Constructed in part with our stormwater management plans that we have in this area we do or we have identified and are working on designs. Final designs for special assessed stormwater improvements for regional detention in this watershed that would go all the way from Pinehurst Square to the the The Tippy top of these last hills that drain towards this area, those embankments would be planned for construction in the next couple of years.

00:23:56,030	In the watershed We look for opportunities to marry these projects up potentially so that they’re in the similar timeline so we can In that coolie once and just do all the work at one time.

00:24:11,200	If there’s some efficiencies there to to look at I will want to be sensitive to geotechnical issues in this area, so it’s probably not something we’re as concerned about in, uh, South Washington Street, which you’re constructing right now. In these steep slopes. It’s pretty flat down there, but I will obviously be a point of very high concern Here is how how steep slopes are safe.

00:24:25,970	What sort of structural elements do we need to consider when we’re putting dirt on top of dirt, and now? 50 ft of dirt, potentially on top of that existing soil? What do we need to do to make sure that’s safe and doesn’t uh Settle in in areas that we don’t expect. Would offer.

00:24:43,770	Also the concept of of potential traffic calming type improvements on this court, or really anywhere from south of Tyler Parkway at Century Avenue north to Ash Coole Drive as a mitigation component of what the extra traffic that we might find on this corridor. Once. It’s constructed, Um it’s not generating any new traffic today. It’s all traffic that probably gets there eventually.

00:25:02,830	Um, but in the future, this will become more and more and more of a corridor that people will use for Northwest Bismarck. We want to make sure that we are provi A safe way for everyone to use that, but the people that live in in Live on those streets as well as the people that just want to drive through those neighborhoods as

00:25:14,800	well. My last piece. I’d say this project will include right of way. Dedication, uh, where you see Cogburn Road at the north End of this is the last I should say is the last area of Platted right of way on both sides of the road.

00:25:30,570	Uh, the plat for Elk Ridge Third edition dedicates half of Tyler Parkway, Uh And then there’s no right of way Dedication for the coolie land itself, so those will be elements that we’ll have to secure as part of this project for us to be able to construct this roadway That is a little bit different than other projects that we’ve done where we’re rebuilding a road like

00:25:43,900	South Washington Street that it already has all of its platted. Of way secured Uh, we would anticipate a 2026 construction for this project. I’ll put that with some caveats that it might be a phase project where we put the embankment down in a given year and let that settle before we go back through and put the

00:25:58,300	paving on or put the utilities across it as something that we would be considering this isn’t the only way in and out of this area, so letting it settle might be worthwhile for us to explore, But. We just don’t want to sit it out there for an unreasonably long period of time.

00:26:13,900	Uh, for for no particular reason. So with that this Next slide shows what those committed projects will look like, plus what we would anticipate Tyler Parkway costing something you know. 14 $15 million for an all in price is what we’re budgeting at this point. Uh, you will see that we are at a a negative.

00:26:33,870	Balance by that same amount in 2026, and by 27 to 28 we find ourselves getting out of the red and back into the black. I bring this to your attention. Because. This is this will be the last project. We can confidently say we’ll have enough money to do whatever it is that we want to do that’s needed for this particular corridor.

00:26:50,170	Whatever that last half cent sales tax project is whether it’s on any of those other blue corridors that we show. Um there’s ways that we can construct and reconstruct those that might not be costly. But when we’re only left with somewhere between five and 10. Dollars.

00:27:04,870	That’s not enough to do these big urban reconstruction type things that might be some sliver widening. It might be some pavement overlay type facility improvements, but there’s not that reimagining of the corridor that we have historically seen with it a cent sales tax, so we are approaching the point that we’d want to, um, talk with the public of what we want to do

00:27:19,570	next. Did we accomplish the mission of half cent sales tax. If so, move on to the next. Um if there’s still some outstanding issues or needs that the community has we wanna explore if this is something to keep on on the books for a longer period of time, and and what does that Package look

00:27:33,430	like so not asking for that discussion tonight, which is knowing that, uh in a couple of years, we’ll definitely be there that we want to know what we’re doing with this remaining, um 6 to $12 million that might be in this fund, uh, moving forward. So OK. No. Go ahead, finish up. OK.

00:27:51,830	So my my requested action is to approve Tyler Parkway extension, uh from Valley Drive to Cogburn Road as the next half cent sales tax project and to procure a consulting engineering services.

00:28:08,570	I would then have an RFP back for you with the consultant selected, uh, in a couple of months if that process is Moved forward with moved to approve as presented Second Are there any. Is there any discussion? Mayor and commissioners. Game. So. We’ve talked about this a long time. Um As far as this this roadway, so you know, and I know that there’s different things that as far as, um you know the sewer and some of the drainage stuff. So.

00:28:30,500	Are we looking at an embankment the full length Are we looking at? Maybe some bridge stuff or what is it that that you’re thinking, cause I know that some of the discussions that we’ve had in the past and what that would look like? Sure, Mayor Comm. Comm.

00:28:47,030	Marquardt? Uh, what we had envisioned through this area would be an embankment across. Um, the coolie. I will bring that embankment as low as we possibly can similar to what we did at Drive. We really when we crossed Valley drive to get to Promontory point.

00:29:01,900	It’s the same concept even when Claremont drive crossed this coolie to get from burnt Bolt road, and as as it made its way up to Promontory First. It’s the same concept of How. Do. We build that road as low as we possibly can to minimize that embankment. Uh, without having, uh such a steep Profile of that roadway that it’s an uncomfortable ride. Drive Rollerblade skateboard.

00:29:19,030	Whatever that mode of travel might be so that will be kind of one of the first things we’ll ask the consulting team to do is how far can we push this road down before it becomes an uncomfortable scenario for all people? We don’t wanna have tying the elevation of Valley Drive to the hillside on the other coolie top and then just fill that whole area in a It’s

00:29:36,170	expensive and B. It’s a a bigger impact on that natural environment, so we’ll look for ways to minimize that as much as Possibly can through this process.

00:29:54,930	Those other roadways that you had mentioned that they, uh, create that embankment let it set as well, because I think that’d be a better option for us, but mayor Comm. Comm. Marquardt. I don’t know the answer to that, in terms of when those were put in, uh, how long they were left to settle, but that’s it’s It’s knowledge that we have somewhere just not in my head. OK. Sounds great. Thank you. Mr Connelly.

00:30:13,170	Would there be any consideration for like At least one access point to where they would build something under the embankment for, um, nature to cross. I know some of the neighbor neighborhood areas I knocked on every one of those doors over the last four years, and, um, there’s a lot of people there’s a couple of very large groups like to hike through that Cooley and they

00:30:31,800	like the fact that the nature goes all the way through the coolie, Um, instead of over a roadway, mayor Comm.. Connolly, I Guess. Fortunately for this project’s benefit any critter that finds its way traversing up that that coolie had already crossed multiple roads at this point in time to get to this location to find themselves in

00:30:50,430	that cooling unless they’re AAA winged animal of some sort that just, you know, flew its way in. Um so the consideration of what would it take to do an animal? Crossing or something along those lines. We could look into that.

00:31:08,500	I think based on my, you know previous experience at the old job is where the DOT was putting in, Um Bypasses and expansions in the western North Dakota. It is very much a specific type of animal that you’re shooting for. I should say shooting aiming for it. Um and then responding to that very particular animal’s needs, So if it were an elk crossing, it needs to look like this.

00:31:26,830	If you’re trying to get a moose that needs to be a a clear span of like 90 ft wide because they just don’t feel comfortable going in a tunnel.

00:31:43,700	We might tell that Moose please just go in this tunnel that moose doesn’t listen to us unless we provide that that, uh, environment for them so Long answer even longer. It’s something we would look into but the concepts of what it would cost to do that to have an animal only conveyance mechanism through that embankment, I think would likely prove probably costly, but that could be something that we would seek from the public their input and if there’s a cost decision to come

00:31:57,100	back to this board, um we can definitely consider that Mr Cleary, I. Guess kind of just echo What Comm. Connelly is talking about but in concerns with like the trails and like the humans that are using that, uh, recreationally is like They’re gonna be talks of like crossing points and stuff like that.

00:32:23,170	With that parks and rec project. How does all of that work. Will all of that go together or mayor Comm. Comm. Cleary. I do see the need for maintaining connectivity to the bottom of the coolie through this thing, Um, our our sanitary sewer master plans of serving this area as well as as future areas Northwest of here

00:32:39,300	is bringing up a large diameter trunk sewer up through the coolie at at some future year. We’ll wanna have access to that in the future, So our master I showed where a 10 FT wide shared use path could be located in this cooly. This would be the opportunity for us to look at.

00:32:55,400	How does this embankment tie into connectivity down to that? Maybe it’s not so much that this project paves a 10 FT. Wide shared use path down to the bottom, but this could be the project that carves out a 10 FT Wide area 12 ft Wide area that then that pavement could be placed on at some future

00:33:10,900	year when that activity is needed. Any other comments. Gary Dunn will call roll. Comm. Zinker. Yes Comm. Connelly? Yes Comm. Cleary? Yes Comm. Marquardt. Yes, yes. Next item is, uh, to receive an update from Amanda Yellow on the event center. Good evening mayor commissioners.

00:33:53,970	Thank you guys for Given us the opportunity to come up and talk to you again about what we have been up to what we are looking to do again. Kind of 30 60 90 days and then provide you with a little handout here of, um some of our highlights from 2023. So first off last time I was here.

00:34:11,170	Uh, we were talking about kind of our busy schedule that we had coming up in the next 30 days, so that would take us back. Um, we had about 48 Show or 48.

00:34:27,300	Excuse me events that I had talked about that were in our future in the next 30 days, and I want to highlight some of those, But first I want to talk about some of the things that since then we have announced and gone on sale with so just in the last few weeks, uh, we have announced some big events.

00:34:46,370	Uh, the comedian Nate Brigati for By 20th show and we’re expecting attendance around 8500 for that event in our arena, the band in this moment and ice nine kills, Uh, coming on August 20th expected attendance for that 2500, Uh 3000 in our arena. The band Girl named Tom Coming to the bell. August 15th, the moth main stage going to the bell. November 20th. The price is right Live is coming on September 11th.

00:35:08,870	We have a family show blippy coming for November 20th the band Dropkick Murphys with Pennywise and the scratch is coming on October 20th into the arena and then we have comedian Steve O coming to, um the bell on August 10th. So those are just some of the, um on sales and announces we’ve had in the last few weeks. The events that have played out.

00:35:28,070	Uh, like I mentioned we had talked about 48 of them and we have been very busy, uh, in the last 30 days, we’ve had approximately 8000 people walk through our doors for a variety of events, including a Broadway show. Pretty women, three performances of the Shrine Circus two college Graduation ceremonies, three high school graduation ceremonies.

00:35:49,830	Two Trade shows six church services. Seven meetings. Three Conventions six concerts with a variety of local and national groups, 15 Children’s choir practices and or performances to wedding receptions, one basketball tournament. Two dance competitions and three dance performances with multiple showings at the Bell. As.

00:36:15,670	You are well aware we hosted the international conference with the Wilston Basin Petroleum conference where we had over 2000 attendees in our building and they had 230 vendors outside and inside of the building. And then we had a record number of people attend our hot wheels, Monster trucks live event and that took place.

00:36:34,430	Um, Couple weekends ago We had a 31% increase in our ticket sales on that from last time they were here, a 10% increase in concession sales and a 46% increase in merch sales over three shows. That was a lot of monster trucks that we sold over the course of two days there.

00:36:54,500	In addition, we had a meeting with an external auditor from Bailey on our internal controls, and we had two great takeaways from that meeting. They did a reasonable testing based on our statistics and revenue, and he found no concerns.

00:37:13,430	Our meeting was able to discuss the subcomittee findings and from the external auditor standpoint, he wanted to talk about the alcohol controls and we reviewed those controls with him and the current procedures that we’re currently having and our third party at this point would have to be enhanced with processes.

00:37:30,230	Beyond what we are doing so the cash register system has been added, but beyond that would be the P OS system and enhance Internet in our building to be able to provide that service, so no further meetings from the auditor were requested, and he’s pleased with his results. Our ticketing services. RFP did get postponed to June 2025 due to making room on the IT calendar. If, a possible transition would take place.

00:37:50,700	We had a meeting with El Engineering to discuss the East Side edition and a few of our staff attended the La Barbera Media training seminar. Looking forward our 30 Day outlook. Um from now until the end of June. We have 24 events in the next 30 days. Well. We have our Missouri festival in our parking lot. They just started loading in yesterday and today so people will start to notice.

00:38:10,370	The Carnival is in town and that starts this Thursday May 31st and goes through Sunday, June 9th We have dusty sleigh on June 8th at the bell. We have our PB R bull riding event on June, 14th and 15th in the arena. Nitty gritty dirt band on June 29th in the at the Bell and Miscellaneous events, meetings. Wedding receptions, uh, conferences, et cetera.

00:38:34,830	Some other things that we have on our docket, of course, brainstorming some additional income ideas. Uh, we’ve got some building sponsorship, um, ideas on the on the table, Additional paid parking, possibly a V services. Uh, looking at doing an economic impact risk assessment. If.

00:38:55,730	That’s Something that is approved, Um, looking into Excuse me the possibility of who would partner with if that is approved. And that’s looking to be on our 2025 budget, but this would just be initial research that we’re doing. Prioritize funding for capital improvements, and then we’re starting our budget meetings. Um as of this Thursday at 8 A.m.. Our 60 Day Outlook.

00:39:15,970	What would take us to the end of July slow down a little bit for ticketed events, which is pretty common for our industry to slow down in the summer. Uh, we have 14 events in the N in the 30 to 60 days we have Wheeler Walker Junior on July 16th at the bell.

00:39:33,270	We Have Nate Brigati July 20th at the, uh, the arena. Uh, again. We have more wedding receptions, conferences, meetings that will be taking place in our exhibit hall. And again like I had mentioned. It’s not uncommon for us to lighten up on ticketed events, but that’s where we’ll start to see a lot of our meetings.

00:39:50,900	Conferences Exhibit Hall side will still remain busy throughout the summer months. Will also be looking at a couple of personnel changes. Uh, our super our maintenance supervisor position will be looking at rehiring that and then also our finance manager, and we’ll start that process mid to late July. 90 day outlook Now until the end of August.

00:40:10,370	We have 18 events in that 60 to 90 days. We have Steve O on August 10th at the bell. The girl named Tom August 15th at the bell in this moment, August 20th in the arena and then again more wedding receptions, conferences, meetings and things in our exhibit hall. I want a little bit further.

00:40:28,770	I? I just wanted to mention this on there on our 180 Day outlook Now until November. Uh, we’re gonna be identifying a building sponsor. We have a few potential sponsors that have come forward and we’re going to be starting some potential. Uh, conversations with them in the near future.

00:40:46,300	Reporting on the Sub-committee findings again looking at kind of 30 60 90 day outlooks on those with the topic of alcohol sales I had mentioned earlier. But. Um we are at a point now where decision needs to be made if we’re going to go out for an RFP or what we’re going to do with the P OS system.

00:41:01,770	We have gained. Um some additional research on just some P OS systems by just doing basic research as to what is out there, But before we go out for an RFP. We’ve kind of halted that process to see what that would look like. And.

00:41:17,100	Then with the wishes be for us to put all of our third parties on that point of sale system, So that would be our dip in dots are exceptionally nuts and other vendors that are currently in our building. We’d recommend some kind of a system that they would all be under so there’d be transparency with all systems. Alcohol.

00:41:36,300	Um, any vendors that would be in the building to possibly all be Identified the same way. Work environment. Our 30 Day Outlook. We’ve had department meetings with HR to chat about personnel, operate operational tasks and other thoughts that have come up from the initial HR feedback.

00:41:57,700	We just had a training on team building and identifying our values as individuals, coworkers and as an organization and staff had come up to me afterward and thank me for helping to get that solidified with HR. It was a positive opportunity for continued positive work environment. Looking forward on that we have a paste pallet training on June 3rd that will take place for all full time employees for another HR training opportunity. Succeed and 90 Day outlook for HR.

00:42:20,200	We’re working on a supervisor training for our full and part time staff to brush up on the tools they have to be able to do their jobs effectively. So.

00:42:36,800	This is more of, um, a concentration on some of the staff that just comes in for our events and giving them opportunity and tools that they can have to to do their jobs effectively. Contracts and lease agreements are 30 60 90 Day Outlook on that we are continuing to use Docusign.

00:42:54,430	We’re going to take a deep dive into the insurance portion of our lease agreement and align with regional event centers to make sure our limits are making sense for the industry that we’re in. Doing an operational evaluation where we can take a harder look at our events. Ancillary income labor that sort of thing to making sure we’re on par with others. And look for continuous improvement in operations and safety in our building, which is something that’s kind of an ongoing thing.

00:43:14,030	But time to put a little bit more emphasis in that in the time when we don’t have as many ticketed things in our building. And written policies. 30 to 60 Day outlook on that our operations mon, uh, manager Robert is working on a CPR training and building emergency plan training and I expect to have this completed by the end

00:43:29,100	of June. Any questions on that before we move. Onto the document I provided. Commissioners any questions for Amanda at this point? Doesn’t look like it so OK? Sounds good.

00:44:12,770	All right if we can fire this Guy up here Right? OK? So what you have in front of you now is our 2023 year in review something that we put together just to give us um A one page or a one page I wish It was one page. It’s a lot more, but there’s a lot more to talk about, which is great.

00:44:28,230	Um, a one document where we have kind of all of our numbers, So these are numbers that we report to the Department of commerce every single quarter and so we just want to put a little bit of meat behind some of the stats that we hand out. Um, I’m gonna move forward with the first couple of pages here quickly. Uh, this page. Here is a Ron ness. Um, testimonial from the Williston Basin Petroleum conference.

00:44:51,200	This is something I had read to you guys previously at one of the commission meetings, but I just wanna note that this is an event that is now happened and based off of the feedback that we have received from the petroleum conference.

00:45:06,700	It is something that we’ve heard Great compliments on and our staff delivered on this event, 100%. This is a listing of our team that makes it all happen. This is our full time staff. Of course we have multiple part time employees that, um, help us out with many of our events. But. This is our full time core staff that we have in our building right now.

00:45:24,370	Couple of numbers to note on here. Total Event days 773 Event days, So this is a number that we like to step back and and take a look at because it’s something that we’re pretty proud of in 365 days of the calendar, we had 773 events taking place.

00:45:43,600	Um, of course, multiple days in one event. To. Get above that 365, but something that um takes place in our exhibit halls. Our meeting rooms. Our Bell and the arena. Bringing in a total attendance last year of 341,009 54, and these numbers just in comparison, the event days were up a little bit from last year.

00:46:03,570	Uh so we’re back on the climb of kind of coming out of our C word covid times, But. Um, we’re back on the rebound from that attendance was down a little bit just from some of the ticketed events that, um Seem to be picking back up again, according to the announces, and on sales that I I noted earlier Some facility

00:46:24,100	updates to note, uh in 2023, our pro A ribbon in our arena was updated and replaced. Uh, that is something that’s on the north end of the arena. Uh, again just technology update there, but some additional features were able to do with it, Um, splitting it in half third quarters, allowing some building sponsors to be up

00:46:43,300	there, along with other statistics that were running from the event. Um Depending on what the event is it? It serves a different purpose for each event. Pray Rose rooms were upgraded with Panasonic four K laser projectors, Uh, key features with these the bulbs don’t burn out.

00:47:01,070	The color doesn’t fade and the image is sharp, so pretty easy and straightforward on that, but definite enhancements to the prairie rose rooms that are are used quite a bit. These are some of our, um top monetary donors and and partners with the the Bismarck event Center. Of course we have many others that we partner with on different levels.

00:47:20,700	But these are some of the partners that we like to just give a little extra. Thank you to for their partnership and their and their trust in our building and helping us to move forward for the community. Arena 91 event days in 2023. 126,164 for attendance.

00:47:43,700	Uh, this brought in some great events for us, Uh, comedians again were a hot thing for 2023. We had Burt Kreischer Jeff Dunham. Uh, country artist Dwight Yoakam, Chris Jansen some rock bands through of a dead man skillet Saint asonia great white and slaughter. And. Then, of course to a couple of our, um annual events. Rodeos that we have to a year a minimum of two a year.

00:48:07,670	Some kids shows musicals, basketball, wrestling tournaments, tribute bands and circus. Moving on to our exhibit Hall, uh in 2023. We had 24 conferences bringing in 35,645 people in attendance. Um, this is something that We like to break about a little bit of being the largest exhibit hall space in the state.

00:48:36,430	We have 100,000 square feet of customizable space, so that is the largest amount of space that does not have any kind of columns or constructed, um, features in the middle that would take away from that open space. So that allows us to have the largest party Dakota for North Dakota, bringing in attendance of 15,900 couple Other conferences to note where the Energy progress and innovation conference with 3000.

00:48:55,970	240 based in electric Co-operative annual meeting with 1200 the egg show with attendance of about 6000. We also have 17 trade shows the 68,005 26 in attendance, and that’s anything like I mentioned earlier. Your pride of Dakota, um, and different commercials where goods are being exchanged. Other side here on exhibit Hall.

00:49:25,030	Just to note. It is one of those spaces that can be used conference trade show. We can flip it around to a meeting, annual dinner, wedding receptions and miscellaneous events. Uh 31 meetings for 5612 people in attendance In addition to the 14 meeting rooms that we have on the second level of the pro or second level.

00:49:44,370	Excuse me of the exhibit hall and over on the west side of the arena. We had 20 receptions, including five wedding receptions last year, Uh, Miss festival brought in 19,130 people in attendance, and then the three college and three high school graduations with 11,800 in attendance, and I know we’re over those numbers already for the graduations for

00:50:06,430	this year. And then just our miscellaneous category of another 49 events. Um 70,000 70 in attendance there. Moving on to our bell. May Huse Auditorium downtown. Uh, this is the home to over.

00:50:33,370	Um 10, local clubs and organizations on its stage, which is really what the bell is all all about is being that local home for events as well as national events, but keying in on on some of those local ones. The non ticketed. We had 35,441 in attendance 42 events of those and 16 ticketed events bringing in 10,577 in attendance. And in this last page here. Um, just wanting to share some numbers on community impact.

00:50:59,300	This is something that the Bismarck Mandan Convention and Visitors bureau helped us to track down 24 events in our community, uh, based on hotel nights, so this is not economic impact to our community.

00:51:21,530	This is money’s raised from Hotel nights so you can see kind of the list there of Events the attendees in the second column, and then the estimated SP spend brought to our community again, just highlighting us as a community center for all Different types of events from conferences, conventions. Uh, ticketed events. We’ve got our rodeos on here. We got wrestling tournaments, basketball tournaments and what we do to provide money to our community. That.

00:51:48,700	I stand for any questions you guys might have. I know, I rolled through it pretty fast. But is there Anything anybody has. Questions anyone? Amanda. Thank you for the report gives us a lot of information to be Looking forward to thanks. OK. We’re gonna move to item. But. I’m gonna turn the chair over to Comm.

00:52:14,000	Marquardt because in the last few months I have a conflict that ultimately arises. I can’t be a part of this discussion. So Comm. Marquardt. Thank you, mayor. Consider requests for Executive Air Corporation EATC to amend its development agreement hanger size from 260 by 120 to 280 by 120. Who is Anyone bringing this forward? Welcome, Greg.

00:52:48,530	Good Evening, Mr vice president and commissioners. Um, yeah. Executive air. Taxi, uh, has has got a development agreement with the airport. Uh, some months ago, uh, to put in a new hangar, a 260 ft by 100 and 20. Ft hangar is what was detailed in the development agreement. Um And.

00:53:16,770	They’re here tonight, asking, uh, to extend the width of that building. Um, uh by 20 ft to 280 ft by 120 ft. And. Uh, Paul. Vedder is here from Executive Air Taxi and, uh, I would turn it over to him and let him Tell you what His druthers are OK, Thank you, Greg. Well. Good Evening commissioners. My name is Paul Vedder.

00:53:52,670	I’ve been with executive air for a little over 35 years now and have been part of a part of a lot of the development history at the airport and Um, one of those things was for us to build a big hangar. Um, at some point Or, um, that can accommodate our growing needs.

00:54:17,230	Our customers needs, um And create development, economic development for the city of Bismarck and help us Hire new people and create jobs for our current employees as well back in October of 22. Uh, this commission approved our development agreement for that 260 by 120 FT hangar.

00:54:40,200	It’s gonna be a single span hanger that with 100 and 20 ft wide door, which will be the one of the largest in the upper Midwest. Um, and that comes as Part of requests from customers that have large aircraft that we currently don’t see here in Bismarck. Um, but we’ve been contacted. To have a facility for them.

00:55:03,570	The 260 FT hangar that is in the development agreement, drawing Is 40 ft to the north of our current hangar. Mm. And based on the land that is available between US and Bismarck Aero Centers hangar Um, we need to lease that ground and we want to maximize the use of that land that we have to pay for in a lease.

00:55:28,630	That not only gives the airport you know the maximized Lease revenue. It also allows us to build the largest building we can in that space, which will create a larger tax base also Based on that drawing again. That’s in that develop approved development agreement. We wanna simply expand. Another 20 ft to the North.

00:55:59,130	To maximize that space. However if we are required to stick with the current building that we have approved. Um That will only mean that the north end of our wall will come to the South 10 more feet because we’re going to. We’ve agreed In meetings to move that little wedge in there and I.

00:56:22,570	I don’t know if you all see that drawing. There’s a little connecting wedge. We would move that To the right. Allowing the building to be shifted for south to add that 20 ft. That only means the wall of the North end is 10 FT. Further north than currently approved. And. So. That’s. My request is to have the 280 FT.

00:56:46,600	Approved. Um Instead of the 260 for us to maximize the space. There. Any questions any questions for paul? Thank you, sir, Do I need to sign in. You. Commissioners. What are your Thoughts wishes comments. I guess I probably have a couple questions for greg if he could come back up. I’ve looked at this previously, um And, I.

00:57:53,930	Guess, Can you maybe elaborate for all of us on What was talked about at public comment. And where where the project is at as far as how they’re sharing that space, I guess with it not being my portfolio. I don’t have a full understanding of it. It seems like we’re getting kind of two perspectives. I. Just.

00:58:15,330	Wanna hear how how This all plays out in the long run looking at that visually, uh, with that hanger Going into that parking lot. I’m I’m assuming and I know that that building that the city owns is potentially going away at some point, But, What is that timeline look like and how do we Maximize space I, I.

00:58:37,670	I’m all for it, but like, how do we make sure that it’s not at detriment of another organization that we also have an agreement with? I? Guess if you could just kind of walk us through the timeline or what that looks like Mr Vice President Comm., Uh, Comm. Cleary.

00:58:58,500	Yeah, uh, the environment at the airport between the FB OS is very competitive. And. It has been for many years. It goes all the way back to 2008. When the city was in the fuel business, and then we got out of the fuel business.

00:59:22,530	Um, executive air at that time wanted to submit a proposal for our fuel the city’s fuel concession, But, uh, through FA, uh, the the regulations that we live under, uh, from FAA. It allowed us to, um Uh, not consider executive air taxis. Um Proposal and it was never opened and we got one from Bismarck Aero Center, So. We ended up with two FB OS at the airport Competing FB OS, which is good for business.

00:59:48,900	It’s good for the community. It’s good for the aviation community. And you know from 2008 until today. Uh, they’re highly competitive. Um, and there’s been limited space to develop on the airport. Uh, we have for 15, or 20 years tried to open up the north end of the General aviation area.

01:00:16,030	Uh to more, uh, development, uh, of new hangers. Uh, to the north where you’ve you’ve seen the two Bismarck a centers, latest hangars. Going in. And Um there was some older hangars and some older buildings.

01:00:38,430	We took down the old Meisner building with that was actually on the other side of university drive before the road was moved over, um, but ended up on the wet on the East side. Um, after the DOT pushed the road over which allowed for our development, Uh, change in that area, And, then we just recently took down hanger five.

01:01:04,430	Um and and and then, uh, hanger 38 the old way point building that was purchased by, uh, executive Air Taxi some years ago. Uh uh, after Fargo Jet Center acquired it. That building just went down. So all of the pieces and parts of this redevelopment plan for the northwest area of the General Aviation area is, uh, coming to fruition.

01:01:31,270	Um, uh, This is kind of a long story, but it’s It’s, uh, I think necessary history for for some of the newer commissioners and others, um So when? When that hanger 38 went down, it opened up. A space between executive air taxis.

01:02:00,630	Um, uh, northernmost, big blue hanger that they have, and there’s a there’s a gap in that in that area between the executive Hes, uh, northernmost Hangar and Bismarck, Eo centers, um, southernmost hangar. Um And there is no There was no claim for, uh, development space. Uh, by Bismarck Aero center on any of that space in there.

01:02:34,170	We use the development agreements because we can’t, uh, provide a right of first refusal to, uh the tenants, uh, for extended periods of time, uh, through their leasing, uh, for their their leases for their operations. Uh, we can’t provide a right of first refusal and, um Uh, Bismarck Aero Center put their development agreement together. Uh, first and then, uh, after their development agreement was passed this commission Executive Air Taxi asked to, uh, come in and utilize, uh, most of that space in between there.

01:03:02,970	Uh, we had originally thought that there was gonna be two hangars that were gonna go in there because that’s what historically we had heard from both of the F BS.

01:03:26,970	But when executive air taxi put in their development agreement they asked for, uh, a majority of that space and, uh, that is and would be, uh, the last, uh, a bit of space that they could develop. Uh, that would be contiguous with the rest of their operation to the South. They have their original hangar. They have the the the, uh blue. Hang that what we call Big Blue.

01:03:51,030	It was relocated from A position where it was male positioned on the airport way back when, and that’s a long story, and I don’t want to get into that. But that was Excalibur aviation many many years ago when they put that hangar in Executive ve bought that they it was moved over and put in place. And.

01:04:07,600	Then there’s a breezeway between those two and then executive air just recently added another Lien to addition on the South side. So I. Guess. You know I. I’m carrying a little bit of the water for for paul, but I mean I’ve heard this from him. This is their last chance to develop, uh, contiguous with their existing operation. Did that did that. Answer your question.

01:04:31,100	Yes, Um, can you speak to like What Like timeline wise, then what happens cause obviously that parking lot and that building right now are being utilized, but they’re gonna be built on top of, um And. My understanding is that that building is arrow.

01:04:58,330	Correct? OK? Yes, I should have said building 22 is still it’s the last building to come down. OK and that was our old office building. Uh, that when we got out of the fuel business in 2008 We eventually got out of that building and we relocated into the new terminal building.

01:05:23,430	And built offices over there and then lease that out as part of our FBO operation when the city got out of the fueling business. And So Bismarck E Center took over that lease in 2008. And. I believe it was a five year, uh, agreement, and I think it had a five year option on it, so that took it to 13 and then up to 18. And, then in 2000, and, um 18.

01:05:47,370	They were granted another extension for five more years. Uh, in that building, And then just recently, uh, were granted, Uh, another extension. Uh, in that building, um At the same time as their development agreement came through for the two northern at Sea, the two northernmost hangars and then the space in between. There are two sets of hangers.

01:06:16,970	They’ve got two in the south two in the north and then the space in between. There is under, uh, a development agreement for Bismarck Aero Center to build their new FBO office. And so we are in a lease right now with Bismarck Aero Center until 2029 for building 22. So.

01:06:43,970	This building is gonna go, uh, in right behind it, and that building 22 is gonna be out on What will eventually be apron space. But you know, as the airport develops, we develop and chunks and and you know, pieces and parts and and, uh, try to, uh, stay ahead of develop.

01:07:09,100	Uh uh, of the the development desires of the tenants in building apron out in front of the of their buildings. Um, but this this the time frames of this got a little bit out of whack, right? I’m just trying to understand like if they And, a five year lease that puts them to 2029. But this building is going to be built. Much sooner than that.

01:07:33,170	That’s going in their parking lot, and they’re gonna essentially be moving offices at some point in that building will not be existing, but it’s an interim. It’s an interim period and I just I mean to their point. You don’t want to. The development timeline to put them in a position where they’re operating out of an office.

01:07:55,570	That’s, You know fully blocked in the parking lot’s all used up by a new building for a year before they transition. I. Guess there’s gonna be the timeline seems there’s gonna be a gap between the two between executive Air Taxis Hangar and Bismarck Aero centers hanger. Um, such that, uh, they’ll be able to access uh, that building 22.

01:08:19,130	We’ve worked and had three or four meetings with both B AC and executive air. Taxi, uh to, uh, work out accommodations for parking and access, uh, into that area and then also, uh, to replace, uh, the parking that, Uh, Bismarck Aero center has now, um, just outside of where it’s at right now, On closer to,

01:08:45,270	uh, our frontage road. Um and they, uh, executive air Taxi is also, um relocating, uh, all the utilities to keep the utilities, uh, going to, um Building 22 because that was part and parcel of their development agreement requirements.

01:09:16,200	They also, uh, executive Air Taxi also has to provide, uh uh adequate parking, uh, equal to or better than what? Uh, Bismarck E center has right now and and those were all parts of those discussions at three or four meetings that we’ve had up until now, Uh, we still have one more meeting that we need to get To entities together to finalize.

01:09:36,430	Uh, some of the last of the accommodations that are gonna need to be made in order for executive air to fulfill the requirements in their development agreement. To accommodate Bismarck A centers, Uh continued use and building 22 in this interim development period. Sure. Yeah. I appreciate the the timeline. I think that when we October of 2022.

01:10:05,230	This was on the consent agenda so we didn’t walk through it all publicly. I think it’s you know, good to kind of hear how it all lays out, So thank you. Comm. Connelly. Um, you’d mentioned with executive error. That’s about as much as they can build under that property that they have access to For Bismarck Aero Center.

01:10:29,230	Do they have more land that they can develop on On the south side of their southernmost building. I’m. I’m just guessing that’s the question. OK, uh, there’s more developable land to the north. Um We will have to get out and build more apron up there. Um, but this is the last of the Developable property on the existing General Aviation apron. If that makes sense. Yeah.

01:11:00,770	So Greg. As. Far as the, um Building that we’ve got in our our packet. Which is this one here? That’s executive hes. Oh. That’s better. It had glare. I can see you and then this is Bismarck Girl centers building the one that runs north on the back. It’s well, it’s on the other side.

01:11:21,570	Oh, the little corner, the white corners one here. There, you go. So. This is executive or, uh, Bismarck Aero Center right here, so, basically the biggest thing that we’re talking about is building 22 correct. Which is gonna go. Yeah. Which is gonna go by the wayside eventually.

01:11:41,370	But the discussion that we’re having tonight is whether we allow an extra 20 ft over to here. And being a narrower And. You said. You’ve had discussions as far as to to deal with the parking issue already. We’ve looked at that, Um For Paul. Um You sweat it and Hagen provide a Do. We have a A? Is this the latest and greatest with at the 280.

01:12:10,100	Yes, OK. And this is This is the first phase with the parking And the utilities If you want to put that on the overhead and then point it out. If you would please, Tim. Or greg? I.

01:12:33,870	Guess this one while they’re doing that, I would just say like with your statement, my concern with some of it is that there that building is coming down eventually. But in the meantime, they have to operate out of it.

01:12:52,430	Right? You’re I mean and to to say that there’s gonna be parking that’s equal or just as good as provided, but it’s like their parking is right outside their building now and then there’s going to be a building on that. I. Just. Yeah, I mean Maybe this will explain it, but just I think the in Meantime, is what is causing me some grief. So Great. Well. This is what it’s gonna look like, Um, a at the end. Uh and this will be in about two years.

01:13:14,200	Um, when when the building is fully constructed. Um, and they’ll have access through. Uh, that Corridor area. Uh, in between the two buildings in the interim period until they’ve, uh vacate, uh, Bill 22, at which time they will. Have built their new FBO building in the gap between their existing Set of Two of two buildings.

01:13:43,600	They got the two southern the two northern buildings and then the gap in between there. Uh, that’s when they’ll have their other FBO offices constructed. Yeah. Might I add? Sure, I, uh I guess. One diagram. Essentially you were asking about timing here, Comm., Uh Uh and and for the record, I’m, Tim Thors. I’m the assistant.

01:14:10,630	Uh, Director of the airport. Um In 2020 this summer. The idea is that uh uh, part of the, uh, the, uh, requirements of EAT CS Development agreement or that they move the utilities and essentially so this summer what they end up doing is you’ll see on the the the top portion here. Right here. They.

01:14:41,830	They re relocate utilities. The. Next thing they do is they construct parking? Uh, it’s unlikely as we’ve seen in correspondence in the future. The These were some of the ideas of the The parking that will be relocated.

01:15:05,970	Essentially the parking will this summer that it will will take care of them through the period up through 2029 will be built in the area behind where the hangar will will. Construct it. And once that’s in place, then next year. You. Get to this part where You see the building here? Move it up here. And, uh, You end up with, uh, the building being built.

01:15:33,100	Uh, that’s after load restrictions and this temporary parking on the, uh, the side that’s closest to the service road is built, Uh, depending on uh uh, B a CS. Uh, some of the discussions talked about the distance. We didn’t want the parking to be too long.

01:15:54,970	One of the options that was offered by Executive Air Taxi, you’ll see on the top part here was to build a temporary uh uh, parking in Is le in B a CS lease space if they agree to that, that would be closer and it would be allow for, uh, some of the concerns that both tenants in the building were. In. Other words. It’s closer, temporary parking. If.

01:16:13,630	It doesn’t all the parking will end up on the on the, uh along the service road and then just project further south, Uh and, uh, so in this phase, they’re building the building. You have temporary parking over. Uh, By the service road. And.

01:16:34,570	Then, We end up, uh And I want you to correct me if I’m wrong here, paul. And. Then we get into the end of the project here. And. Uh, so then you’ve got, uh, access through the center here where we create a new approach. Uh, that goes straight to building 22, and you can see Bill 22 is the, uh, Bill. Out over here. And. Uh, the the main the, uh large. This.

01:17:00,230	One is set up with his proposal for 280. Uh, not 260, where he moves this portion of the building from the old drawing. He moves this back, which allows him to move the building farther. To the South to accommodate when we space on the top and still end up with a larger building. And.

01:17:21,430	Then at the end of the summer, first summer. Well, at least constructing that’s 2025. What, uh, happens as the building gets built. We get to the fall and then in the fall period, the construction is far enough along where, uh, the remaining uh, temporary parking on this side of the building is completed.

01:17:44,970	And, uh, and the other temporary parking is here and then essentially, you’re into steady state with some parking in between access to the building a turnaround up in this area. And then the, uh The essentially the parking that will take them through and building 22 is demolished in 29 ish.

01:18:05,300	Or before then, if exec uh I mean if, uh, B AC decides to build, they can build any time between now and 2029 and end of 229. And, So. That is kind of what the last plan last November that B AC presented to us, and, uh, that kind is how you get to the temporary parking, where one for one.

01:18:26,570	It’s replaced over on the side. And then, uh, during that interim period, that’s how they access it. And, then, uh uh, BC builds their building. Uh, farther to the north between the two buildings They’ve got, uh, which is the last piece of their development. An agreement.

01:18:50,570	Uh, the airport has, uh removed, uh, It related to the requirements to both companies. The City is obligated in In, uh, B C’s, uh, development agreement to do a number of things. One of them is to remove Hanger five, which just came down built apron in front of it.

01:19:11,970	We’re doing that right now, Uh, In fact the apron and everything that’s set up for when B AC wants to build their hangar I. I should say they’re office building that will be in place here at the end of this summer.

01:19:30,570	And, then we have a effectively met all our obligations in the development agreement to B AC to, uh, exact, uh, we are right now in, uh, in a project called, uh, G apron. Phase five and then GAFP Phase five. It. It had removed that building five build apron there and meet those obligations to, uh B AC and then also to build apron down in an area.

01:19:58,370	It will support Essentially the apron that’s going to be in front of this. This large 280 by 120. If. That’s If you do agree to let him build 280 So. Uh uh And then at the end of that, we will have met our obligations to those persons to that organization and, uh, what this does is allow us to bridge our way through.

01:20:21,500	Allow a large development that these are kind of once in a lifetime type of big buildings. Uh, and, uh and then allow, uh Um The B AC to operate, continue to operate so I. Hope. I’ve answered your questions. Uh, we went through a number of of, uh, meetings. Greg referred to him where we had both parties in the room and the tenant. The.

01:20:46,030	Other tenants, uh, the North Dakota Air Knox Commission in a in the room, and we talked about mitigations and how we’re going to do it and and by the third meeting, this is the This is the The kind of the plan that we came up with.

01:21:06,170	And, uh um I think that’s kind of steady state where we’re at now, and, uh, I would envision, uh, With. The board’s approval of the change. Uh, we have a last meeting to talk about, uh, mitigations. Uh, So that Both parties can operate.

01:21:34,700	And then, uh, I would expect that, uh, executive air tax will move to the community development with their, uh, with their, uh, all those processes that happen when you’re when you’re gonna do a building. So So Timor, Greg. So with the with the building the way the original agreements are As To 60 by 122 160 by 120, sir So If. He goes to 80. He’s moving at 10 FT. Closer to the building to the South.

01:22:06,030	Right? Yeah because and then so you’re looking at an extra 10 ft on the north side, then to make up the difference of what That’s right. You What you’ll essentially see is what’s depicted here breeze. Was originally on this side. Over here, right? And, so they moved it over to this side. Which allowed the whole building to move south.

01:22:30,500	Southerly. Uh, At least, 10 ft. If, There’s only 10 more feet of space that’s needed for 20 ft expansion to the North. Well, that What I’m getting at is we’re shifting the whole So.

01:22:49,970	We’re talking 20 ft, but he’s shifting or they’re shifting the the whole building 10 ft to the south, So it’s just an extra 10 to the north of what it would actually look like if he had it. The other way, so we’re still You know, blocking or using up some of that parking for building 22. Um and then block the building the building right now, if you’re coming in from town If.

01:23:12,130	You’re coming out to the airport from town. It’s obscured by one of the BAC southernmost building, and you can’t see building 22 on 1804. Until you? You get directly west of it, and then you can see it. If. You’re coming in from the south. Well, of course, then you can see it through the gap there.

01:23:34,100	I know, but I guess when I’m when I’m thinking of like visually, and I’m like my perception is from a like a business owner standpoint. OK. So when I’m pulling into where I’m going, right, It’s not a. I’m driving out to the airport and trying to find it And. I don’t know what it’s called, and I don’t know what I’m looking for.

01:23:48,600	You’re going there for a purpose, but you’re trying to locate it when you’re pulling into that, like frontage row, you know that takes you to the parking lot. I just It’s not that I have a problem with like 10 more feet, I.

01:24:07,170	I’m the thing I’m struggling with is the timeline and how this building is gonna be placed. And. Then they park and have to essentially walk around their competitor to get to II. I understand that there’s agreements and timelines that we’re all trying to get to flow together, But.

01:24:32,230	I think that that’s the part I’m struggling with with in those conversations are Is there any I mean, It’s not the optimum situation. No. I agree with you, 100%. It’s. It’s a timing issue. It’s a timing issue between two highly competitive F BS and we can’t control when they want to come in and propose new developments. Um And, You know, I guess it it it causes. Uh, you know, a bit of a rhubarb.

01:24:57,500	You know when when these kinds of things happen, I can tell you that we have control over signage. And we are not gonna allow Executive air taxi to put signage on that. It’s that large building stating this is executive yada, yada yada until Bill 22 is gone. And. They FBO is R and B a CS FBO is relocated.

01:25:25,100	That is one of the additional items that um uh is has been talked about, Uh and we’ll be finalized. Um, yeah, it’s not the optimum situation. We looked at it as an interim period and and when you’re dealing with construction and redevelopment, um uh, especially on airports, it takes time.

01:25:48,630	It takes time to for these, uh, developments to Materialize and then takes time for us. Uh, both the developer, the tenant and us to, uh, put together, Uh, FAA projects to build apron and do all these other things. Um so it it’s it.

01:26:11,030	They’re always a step by step process and in this particular case, you know B AC wanted to extend that lease and out to 29 and and I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again that you know, I Kind of reluctantly agreed to do that, because, you know, we’re trying to accommodate.

01:26:30,800	Uh, their the the the the tenants, development schedules and finances and all those kinds of things, and you know, we we have the ability to put these development agreements together and the development agreements are the one thing that they can, uh hang their hat on to, uh, essentially reserve space for them, Uh, as they have a multiyear development process. But it has to be a reasonable period of time.

01:26:54,030	And those are rules with the FAA, and that’s what we have to stick to. So I mean we We do the best we can under these circumstances and this is you know, uh, it It’s not the best and Greg, I’m not trying to give you a hard time. I’m not but I, but I just am more so trying to wrap my head.

01:27:09,800	You know that’s I mean I would agree with some of the things that you’re saying. Greg. So. What the building with at the 260 versus 280 are those, um Parking arrangements still, in effect as well.

01:27:32,400	I think we’re gonna We’re gonna be able to, uh, put in parking along the South side, um, of that opening like we had talked about before, but as far as on the north side of that opening Um Uh, well, there’s gonna be a there. It’s gonna be paved asphalt all the way up through there and up to the building and then ability to turn around. Uh um at the See ramp frontage line.

01:27:55,230	You know that area on the on the, uh, I. Guess it’s the right side of the screen here. Um there’s gonna be ability to turn around and there we did show parking along the South. Side abutted up against executives building all the way along and there. I don’t know that These are the most updated drawings.

01:28:17,670	Uh, because I remember parking along the The South side there, too. Um Was was that not part of the do you have the latest greatest? Well. Thank you? This is way better. Here we go. So that that shows you what the parking is gonna look like on the south side of that opening, And. Then.

01:28:46,300	There’s There’s ability for, um Parcel delivery and turn around up there. We were just talking. Even this afternoon about maybe the ability to put in a gate. Uh, Up in that area right there along this fence line. Right in here. This is essentially grass area in front. And.

01:29:09,470	We might be able to Slip in a A temporary gate in that location for a period of time. For access on to the apron. We also looked at a couple other, uh places, uh, north of that as well. Um, but this opening here In the end when it’s all done, we’ll have a Um Airport controlled on our access control system.

01:29:36,670	Uh, power operated gate for, uh, all the users to utilize and that it’ll become a throughput. Um, area for access onto and off of the General Aviation area. Ultimately Thank you, greg. Yeah. Commissioners any other questions for Staff or Pa. Comm. order your wishes. Comm. Zinker, New York or vice chair commissioners.

01:30:30,530	Um, so I’ve heard this multiple times because it’s my portfolio. So I. I purposely didn’t say anything. Just, So the three of you could. I thought it was gonna be four. So It is what it is. So the three of you can gather your thoughts. Um, we’ve had meetings.

01:30:50,300	Um, staff wise myself, um, with with the Bismarck Aro center, trying to come to a conclusion at the end of the day. We have this We have a development development agreement signed By one entity and another development agreement signed by the other entity.

01:31:12,100	Um, there are references to parking, but Greg or Tim, or, um, even John or Paul will correct me if I’m wrong here, But parking is just it’s not part of the development agreement lease. From. What I understand, Um Again. The, four of You Just. Correct me if I’m wrong there, so the only thing that they really lease are is the square footage of the buildings that they occupy. So, um, based on timing. Um The.

01:31:35,630	Uh, Bismarck, a center All has had a a vision. Um, for whatever reason on their development agreement they did not include part of their vision. Within that development agreement.

01:31:55,470	Um, and at that time, um Executive came in and said, Hey, if it’s not gonna be in their development agreement, they made a business decision to do what they what they thought was best for their business. Um I as Greg alluded to, um they have. It’s not arbitrary. You know who can do what, Um, greg or Tim? You can, um, expand on 16 and 13 FAA regulations? Um, they got to be very impartial.

01:32:20,430	Uh, can’t hold land for anybody, Um, if it’s in a lease or or those types of guidelines, Um and they they are very stringent. So Um, I I’ve had many, you know. Hey, how can we make this both work for everybody? But at the end of the day, we can’t Say.

01:32:43,530	Um, business X, you need to pause for two years so business wise can catch up that would be in anybody’s business to have somebody regulate their Their competition. Um, to pause. I don’t know if that’s um doable. I wouldn’t call it in this scenario with the FAA guidelines. I wouldn’t call it practical either. So I’ll again.

01:33:05,930	I’ll open up to you guys to correct me if anything I gave was incorrect. I just wanted to mention mayor and commission. Uh, commissioners, uh, that we, uh Uh, the requirement that, uh EATC has in their development agreement is to replace parking that is in existence with parking that is as good or better.

01:33:32,030	And at their cost, and so you can expect one for one it to be replaced behind that building and then to the south, and I. Just want to clarify that? Thank you, Tim. John, did you Wanna say something more? Comm. Marquardt commissioners. Thank you, Um Are Lease for building 22 does include parking. As signed in 2008. And.

01:34:02,430	Our lease also includes a specific area that’s under the proposed development by executive air so that there is a carved out location in our lease. That highlights a spot that’s underneath that development. And I said. If I’m wrong to correct me now if I but, um hang on, Let’s we’re OK. We can have this. We’re good.

01:34:19,630	So, Um, with that being said, from what I understood at one of our meetings, the parcels are not laid out yet. As to what? So you that that parking doesn’t really have a a parcel attached to that. Is that correct. Maybe. That’s where I got my Information from Um Ortho Commissioners Commissioners anchor.

01:34:46,830	Um, I Least associated with the office building and building 22 shows outline parking spaces that are associated with our Building lease, but I was wrong. OK, now. What, Um, Director Thorson and our airport manager Hoag will tell you is that Um We have part of a later agreement that indicated we would allow movement of the parking space.

01:35:12,970	Um I provided some Co-operative spirit to help adjust parking. For what we thought was going to be an adjustment of our driveway. Not one for one parking spaces. And the entire loss of our parking Um, if you look at the packet that was provided to you, Um whether we wanna go go through this or not, Uh, at what level of detail, but When the

01:35:35,530	original when we signed our development agreement in June of 2022 Uh, the development agreement that’s published and it’s still on the Bismarck. Commission Agenda website. Showed that executive air taxi was going to build what looks like 100 and 20 by 120. So when we authorized movement of the parking lot.

01:35:57,770	We thought it meant that we were authorizing movement of the driveway. To our current parking lot, not displacement of our entire parking lot. Those are the decisions that were made, Uh, we relied upon that information provided By the Bismarck airport and through our development agreement. You following me.

01:36:24,370	Yeah, I’m with you? I just didn’t so you know, I don’t remember that, you know, Dash line So again. I you know we’ve been here you know organization has been around for almost 35 years. We. We’re a long stay here. We want to be a Co-operative member at the airport? You know I hate that we’re having this discussion tonight.

01:36:40,100	Um, in our our agreement to alter and adjust the parking lot. In 2022 was a good spirit to Cooper and say, how can we all work together? But. I’m I’m here because we’re losing our entire parking lot and visibility. Um I have some other points here but relevant to Parking. I wanted to address that. Any other questions for John at this time.

01:37:15,400	Thank you, sir? If I may I have a few more comments here If there’s an opportunity, so If. We have any more questions? We’ll ask you come up. Um, let me just, uh Mentioned to you that, um when Ms Merker center built their southernmost hangar, it’s six B. Um Um Hey.

01:37:45,100	They have two strips of parking spaces in a larger parking lot. That’s utilized by their business, but they have two strips in there that have about 0 12 or 13 parking spaces in there, and when they built their hanger six B Their parking, um, had to be moved and it was just relocated and just arbitrarily.

01:38:13,370	Uh, marked off in the larger parking lot, Uh, that is behind building 22 as it exists today. Um And Tim Thorton can speak to, uh, his discussions with Uh, John Simers B AC. Regarding the parking issue. Uh, when the development agreement was negotiated. We? We made a in in the, uh, EATC Excuse me In.

01:38:49,130	This case, the B a CS development agreement, It says we’re going to make a number of changes to leases. There’s a number of things that, uh, has to do with. Uh uh uh. Commitments for, uh Paying for part of the apron.

01:39:12,070	The 1st 50 ft of Actually 43 ft of the apron because the lease goes 7 ft in front of the buildings. And a number of other things and one of the things that was, uh, that, uh, in that was Amendment three. And we did that to the FBO lease, and that’s what extended it out to 22,029. And.

01:39:33,570	Uh, then, uh, lo and behold, we find that, uh, in order to do any kind of development in that area, uh, we have to have a Ah, uh Ability to move parking. Um, I. Wanna read something out of the, uh Uh, airport compliance.

01:39:58,500	Me, Uh, Handbook, it says, granting options or preferences to future lease sites to a single service provider may be construed as the intent to grant an exclusive right. Therefore the use of leases and options for uh or future preferences, such as rights of first refusal must generally be avoided. This is because a right of first refusal or to allow an existing tenant to hold claim on airport land a little or no cost.

01:40:17,830	Then when faced with the prospect of competition. Lease holder could then exercise the option and inhibit access of others or limit or prevent competition anyway. Uh, that’s the guidance that we’re following to try to, Uh uh, not grant an exclusive right right now, uh, based on how we’ve done both development agreements, we have neither violated any grant as insurance

01:40:42,830	nor we have we granted an exclusive right to either party. Uh, anyway, uh, the last thing I guess. I wanted to say was in Amendment four.

01:41:03,630	We approached, Uh, john Simers again and said, in order for us to develop in this area we need, uh to, uh, be able to move the parking and so, uh, the amendment four that he signed, it would have been better if I to put it in Amendment three, But I didn’t uh so we put Amendment four together.

01:41:24,470	Uh, And it says stalls in the lease parking area described in exhibit May be replaced at an alternate location on a 1 to 1 basis at the city’s discretion if the city replaces parking stalls, the temporary replacement stalls will be at no cost to the leas. The. Temporary replacement stall shall be in the same condition or better than the existing stalls and that this plan that we’ve, uh, worked out with, uh Executive Air taxi where they’re actually going to pay for those stalls.

01:41:46,930	Uh and, uh, the move of the utilities and all those other types of things to, uh, meet our obligations to provide parking That is at least as good as what they have now and allow the development to go forward. Thank you, Tim. Commissioners. So basically, What we’ve got is a Comm.

01:42:08,770	Zinker had mentioned before in Greg as well. We got two signed, Um documents, Uh, lease agreements. Uh, the one from, uh, executive air is asking for, um Amendment to change their, um, building plan from 260 to 280 with the, uh, diagrams that were pres provided to us. And. That’s what we really need to kind of focus on as well. So.

01:42:38,200	Um, commissioners again. What are your wishes? And Granted. It’s not a an easy decision by any means as far as but we do have a a plan in a building. Um For, uh, From, one of them and they want to, uh, make that 20 ft.

01:43:22,000	Larger, um, with 10 ft being on the one side that is in question as far as some of the parking and then 10 ft, closer to the southernmost building. To make up that, added 20. Now. You know what I felt like the last six months. As a as a as of right now, if we do nothing, it’s a 260 ft building. With. The. Same visible limitations? Yes.

01:44:03,630	So the visibility side of it doesn’t change. But. We as a commission need to take a look at or either, uh, Um, approve the request from executive air. To build that. Extra 20 ft. I’ll make the motion to approve. As presented. It’s moved. Is there a second Second call. All second Curtis.

01:45:17,830	I know we’ve already talked ourselves in a circle, but, um, it’s it’s been moved and seconded. Is there any discussion Comm. Cleary, I understand to your point like it’s like it’s It’s 20 ft if we don’t approve it, then it’s 260 instead of 280. I think that that’s Not the part that I’m struggling with it.

01:45:38,630	And to Greg’s point. Some of the Timeline is out of their control. I just that In between timing, whether it’s two years and they move their office in 2027 or 20, you know, like or until it’s 2029 like that, in between period.

01:46:04,400	I mean, Can do a lot for a business and so I’m I think that that’s what I’m struggling with. I understand that we just have to follow the Stuff that is in place and the signed agreements and that sort of thing. It just I. Don’t feel great about it, I guess would be my point. Thank you Comm. Cleary Comm. Zinker, Please Your commissioners Comm.

01:46:25,030	clear to your point, right? I mean, When. You, go to the airport and I’ve had the portfolio for a while now and when you go there and you talk about a topic, I mean Tim and Greg got reams of paper. I mean they have to file so, uh, follow so many guidelines. Um, and they’ve been through this Multiple times. And.

01:46:43,500	There’s from the Everything they’ve done meets the FAA. Um Guidelines. There’s 13 and 16 in rules and stuff that you gotta you. You gotta read it three times just to comprehend the whole thing. I know Janelle was part of those meetings, too. And the they get very difficult, and Yeah.

01:47:03,500	It is it is it is what it is. You’re leasing. You’re leasing land and you don’t own the land. You can do whatever you want in front of your whatever your building frontage so Um, that’s why When. You look at it From a visual perspective, nothing changes.

01:47:20,700	The only thing that’s gonna gonna change is is the length of the bill is the length of the building and and one entity is making that adjustment so they can grow it by A few more feet, so Mar Comm. Cleary. One more question, Greg. That’s, Then. I’ll Be done. Um So. You had mentioned signage. Like.

01:47:44,100	How because the it’s kind of a view obstruction when that building comes that way, that there you’re not gonna allow like a big signage that like then they’re walking around that big sign to get to the other business is they’re going to be temporary signage that shows people how to get to be a if they’re having to wa you know what I mean? Because those

01:48:02,230	parking spots. Are you coming around the building to get to that? Yeah, we’ve talked about Temporary signage. They did actually both entities. Uh uh, met we weren’t part of that meeting, but they did meet specifically about signage. I can’t tell you what was stated at at that meeting, But.

01:48:26,770	It would be, um, um our wishes that you know there’s no signage on there that says Executive Air taxi on that building. I would rather see a sign that says Bismarck Aero center with an arrow pointing Around and through the two buildings that’s kind of on a temporary basis.

01:48:46,700	Yeah we’ve talked about other temporary signage for parking spaces that are going to be utilized by by, uh uh, their customers. Um In that area. Uh as well, Um one thing that I would say, I don’t know if it’s gonna help you or not. I mean, um, I. We’re in this situation.

01:49:09,400	Now with this with the gap between the two buildings, and it’s not the optimal situation, although it is temporary. Um, and it’s an interim period that will they’ll have to get through, Uh, until they build their FB building. Um from the airports, Uh, airport operator standpoint. We would recommend that you allow them to build the 280.

01:49:38,300	Here’s the reason why Uh, we look at apron frontage on the general aviation apron and any other apron like Lake Shore frontage, and you know how expensive that is when you go over to Minnesota and look at 100 Ft, or 200 Ft of lakeshore property. Well, probably here on some lakes as well.

01:49:59,100	But we look at it as Lake Shore frontage and, uh, the more we can fill those even those gaps where we’re we’re talking about this existing gap where we’re gonna put the the electric gate with the card control and stuff in there. Um You know it. It doesn’t matter to us, whether it’s 260 or 280, but the more uh uh, space that’s filled with actual hangers.

01:50:23,100	S storage facilities is better. That’s my point. So. We’re not in favor or against it, But. I’ll tell you that. Thank you, Greg? Yeah Any Other questions for me, OK? There’s been a motion in a second. Any other discussion. Seeing and hearing none. Please call the roll. Mr Cleary. Yes. Fisher Marquardt. OK? Sorry, Mr Zinker? Yes? Mister Connolly.

01:51:07,430	Yes. Comm. Marquardt. Yes, motion passes. Mayor if you wanna come back up and Thank you, sir. OK, um We cover other business first. If. There’s any Before. We take the item that was added to the agenda. Does. Anybody has there other business? I have none. Not. Then. There’s the last item. For executive session If.

01:51:46,470	Anybody should make the motion. A move that we enter into executive session under north Did you want to go to other business before we went to the executive session, I? I thought I just did. I thought you had something. No? No, I would have to say that I, didn’t you asked this? I didn’t have OK I.

01:52:03,430	I understand? I was asking. I’m sorry. No, you’re you’re good. It was a little confusing. I was on a roll greg, too. Make a motion 10 to go into executive session on the North Dakota Central code 44-04 Dash 19.2 to receive attorney consultation regarding an imminent lawsuit. Second OK, um, we’ll call Any discussion. McCall.

01:52:32,830	Mr Marquardt. Yes. Yes. Mr Connelly? Yes Comm. Cleary? Yes,