00:00:14,730	Cape, we’re gonna start. Welcome today is November 5th national Election Day. 2024, it is 5:30 p.m. and we are in the Bosch Frehlich meeting room at Mandan City Hall. Mr. Neubauer, could you please take the role Commission Schoberg Braun. Here, Mayor Frelich here. Comm Schoberg will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:00:41,900	Please stand and face the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. To the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God. Good to ask. Thank you. Uh, just a couple of announcements.

00:01:13,130	I did mention that it is election day, so if you are watching at home and you have not voted. Please turn off your TV and go vote. This is on uh. Rerunns for the next 2 weeks, so you won’t miss anything. Also a reminder prior to snowfall, please remove campers, trailers, and boats from the streets and sidewalks to accommodate for snow removal. This is stated in section 24-7-17 and 24-7.

00:01:41,770	18 of the Mandan Code of Ordinances. No boat, motor home, bus, camper, or trailer. May be parked on a public street between September 16th. In May 14th Violations are punishable by a $50 fine in towing at the owner’s expense. And let’s hope we don’t get any snowfall. OK, Commissioners, you have the agenda before you.

00:02:10,070	Are there any changes? If not, I’m looking for a motion to approve. I moved to approve the agenda. A 2nd We have a motion by Comm Brown and a second by Comm Schoberg. Any discussion, hearing none, roll call, please, Messrs. Braun. Here Schoberg. Hanshaw, Mayor Frelich, yes. Agenda I Item E. Consider approval of the minutes from the October 15, 2024 board.

00:02:42,100	City Commission regular meeting. to improve the minutes as stated. Second, the motion by Comm Braun, a second by. Comm Henon, any further discussion? If not roll call, please, Monsieur Schoberg. Yes, Heins. Brown. Yes. Mayor Freelich. Yes Agenda item F. Public hearing. Uh, item number one, consider a request for a minor plat.

00:03:20,630	to be named Kendall’s edition and Annexation ordinance 1457 for lots 4A and 4B, B block 1. Title estate’s first edition, Andrew. Good evening, Mayor Frelich and Commissioners. This request is from Kendall Xander. The request is to combine a lot in Southeast Mandan for future home construction.

00:03:43,100	I have my location map on the screen which references the property on Prairie View Drive and 8th Avenue Southwest. Um The public hearing this evening is for an annexation. Earlier this year, this board did approve a request to serve the property with water and uh as the projects continued to develop towards construction, uh, that the lots are being combined.

00:04:08,570	The purpose behind the lot combination is uh for the lot to achieve a size sufficient for on-site septic utility. So the two properties that are 0.64 acres are being combined into a 1.2 acre, 1.28 acre lot rather. That is the item that the public hearing is for. I have a staff report that references findings of fact related to the annexation and the minor plat.

00:04:30,100	Um, this item has been notified to Morton County and the public via the Mandan News and its approval. Do you have any questions for me? Richard, I’ll move to approve the minor plat for Kendall’s edition. Second We’re gonna open the public hearing first. That’s OK. Um, so at this time hearing no questions from the commission will open the public hearing.

00:04:57,170	So anybody that wants to comment on this? There is a pad up there. And just write your name and your address. Second call for comments. 3rd call for comments. Hearing none, the public hearing is closed. We’ll move to. Agenda item K 5. And at this time I will entertain a motion.

00:05:42,230	From the commission I’ll make a motion to approve the minor plot for Kendall’s edition. Second. OK, we have a motion from Comm Hendon to seconded by Comm Brown. Any further discussion? Hearing none roll call, please. Comm, Ron. Yes, Schoberg Mayor Frelich. Yes. I don’t want to under public hearing. Public hearing for street Improvement District 239. Memorial Highway.

00:06:18,500	Jarek Mayor Commissioners, good evening. Um, we have for you tonight, um, some information related to Street Improvement District 239 Memorial Highway Project, um, I thought it was a good opportunity to, um, go over some high level, a high level view of the project for everybody’s benefit. Um, prior to the public hearing.

00:06:41,430	Maybe head off some questions or comments, um, the project overview, it’s going to be an urbanization of the memorial highway, um, get rid of the ditches in favor of curb and gutter, the uh corridor will be lowered by up to 2 ft in some places to uh. To um Improved drainage Um, we’ll, it’ll be a 5 lane road.

00:07:04,800	22 travel lanes in each direction and then a center turn lane, um, medians and at intersections, uh, and a 10 ft wide shared use path on the south side or the southwest side of the corridor. Um, currently it is split into two phases, that’s the East phase and the West phase.

00:07:28,870	Phase one, the east phase, um, would be constructed in 2025, and then, uh, there’d be kind of Support construction happening in 2026. Phase two would be uh constructed the main line would be constructed in 2026 with some of that support work being occurring in 2027. Um This is a in North Dakota Department of Transportation project. It’s uh eligible for federal funds.

00:07:59,300	And right now this project has $73.7 million of federal funds allocated to it. It also has $14.8 million of state funds. And then, um, our local share for the rodent storm sewer portion of the project. Is capped at $5.6 million. Though, um, we do have some soft costs, uh, that we have included kind of in that uh.

00:08:23,230	In that pie Piece of pie Um, those soft costs include engineering, um. Support projects like the MDU overhead burying project, uh, land acquisition, some, some of that, some of those kind of miscellaneous costs. Of the city’s portion for rod and storm sewer. Um Sure. We have a a proposed $500 per parcel, a citywide assessment.

00:08:52,200	And that we’ve been using 8000 parcels as an estimate for that, and that represents about $4 million citywide assessment. And then the remaining uh rodent storm sewer improvements, uh, we have a two-tiered. Near corridor, um. Assessment kind of uh group that we are proposing. For the utility side, um. We have About $6.

00:09:24,730	5 million of Department of Water Resources funding anticipated that would be that would represent 60% of the water, um, improvements. We have $3 million of ARPA. Um, or we will obligate $3 million of ARPA to this project and then MDU is also putting in $3.1 million. Along wither For the uh Bearing the overhead power along the corridor.

00:09:53,900	And then that leaves $8 million remainder which we are um proposing to include in the tiered assessments. Jarek, what’s ARPA? ARPA, American rescue Plan Act. Sorry, here, I think I need to start over cause I don’t know how to go backwards. Um, ARPA is the American rescue Plan Act.

00:10:17,530	I think it’s uh funds that were distributed during COVID as a, as a relief for municipalities. Um, the citywide assessment, um, I did mention this $500 per parcel, um, we’re estimating that at $4 million or $4 million when we do, when the assessing department does parcel counts, that’s 9, above 9000 parcels, so we’re, we’re kind of estimating on the conservative side there side there.

00:10:47,370	Um Tier one parcels, uh, kind of shown in the map here. These tier one parcels would be. Ah parcels that have frontage along the Memorial Highway corridor. We also, uh, split tier one parcels into sub tiers A, B, and C, and those are small, medium, and large. Category parcels.

00:11:14,570	Um 2 parcels, uh, I believe that would be parcels that are a quarter mile off of the center line of Memorial Highway. Um, these don’t have frontage to Memorial Highway, and they are, um, split based purely on size, once again, small, medium, medium, and large tier 2 parcels. Um Of the utility funding $4.3 million of that uh proposed.

00:11:40,830	Uh, tiered assessment is Water related and 3.65 is related to sanitary sewer improvements. Um For water Along the tiered parcels, we, uh, split it into 4, benefit categories, and those, those benefit categories being service and main improvements, just made improvements, distribution enhancements and separate service area or no service parcels.

00:12:12,830	did prepare a map here that shows Shows kind of how that’s distributed, um. Just as a vis visualization for everybody. On the sanitary suicide, very similar, ah. Categories, service and main improvements, just main improvements Downstream improvements and then separate service area or no service. Um, I also Uh Created a map to kind of visualize that.

00:12:41,100	notably on the sanitary seweride, not all of the tiered parcels are served by the mains under Memorial Highway that are being improved, so there are areas that um Don’t have a benefit to the work that’s being done on the project. So we have that we have that represented. Um We have that represented in our spreadsheet. Um, frequently asked questions.

00:13:05,700	This is, we’ve gotten a lot of calls over the last, uh, two weeks or so, and, um, Just wanted to kind of Go over these water and sewer assessments, not based on lot size, based on benefit category, water and sewer assessments not fully based on current lock use, meaning Um, a, a parcel that might not need.

00:13:28,630	Fire sprinklers today might need fire sprinklers tomorrow, so we’re trying to anticipate those types of improvements. Um, the sidewalk and shared use path are crucial parts of this project, especially with the federal funding makes it much more attractive to the federal government when when we’re including accessibility. Um, improvements.

00:13:49,030	And uh just let everybody know if you want a detailed breakdown of your special assessment benefit category. You could contact the engineering department after this meeting, um, and we also have set up a project page CityMmandan.com/MHP Memorial Highway Project. Um, where people can find more information and where we will continue to post updates related to the project.

00:14:11,900	Um, with that, I will just move over really quick. To the To the Protest results. Bear with me. We had We had, um, at the October 1st meeting approved resolutions necessary to create the district 239. Um, and that that uh resolution of necessity was posted in the Mandan News on October 4th and October 11th.

00:14:50,300	Um, the protest period was 30 days long, and we were accepting, um, protests up to 4:30 p.m. yesterday. We also accepted, um, protests that came in yesterday after 4:30. So we have those represented as well. Um, the citywide protest rate, um, was 0.5%, which is kind of the, the number that we look at for that 50% threshold.

00:15:14,900	Um, also, we wanted to To, uh, give you information, uh, the protest rate if it were only tiered parcels was 4.3% by area, so once again not anywhere close to a 50% protest rate, um, if you have any questions or any follow-up questions, I’d be happy to try and answer them.

00:15:41,070	We also have representation from HDR, the engineer on the project, they’d be able to answer questions too. Did you mention the length of time the project is scheduled? Um, we are expecting. 3 years of construction. Um, each project taking 2 years and overlapping. In the middle Um, we would only expect 2 years of mainline construction, I believe.

00:16:12,570	Um, I could be, um. I could be wrong on that, but main mainline construction, potentially 2 years and then an additional year for kind of the. The auxiliary improvements. During construction Jare during construction, there will be Uh Absolute minimum of 2 lanes open, preferably 3. Mayor, Comm, that is correct.

00:16:41,530	There will be um one lane in each direction and a center turn lane maintained at all times. Ah, during the course of the project. How do you account for the access to the businesses. Um, I believe that, well, they are, they’re constructing essentially sacrificial roadways. Um, that will have that three-lane section on it. And, um, with the sole purpose of minimizing.

00:17:10,230	Uh, disturbance to the adjacent businesses. Yeah I believe it’s written into the written pretty specifically into the project plans that They will not be disturbing businesses along the corridor. Um, yes, ma’am. We’re gonna hold our comments from the audience till the public hearing, please. So the, the contractor will have a uh communications representative on site.

00:17:42,230	Ma, Comm, yes, they have, they are required to, um, Include communications, uh, a communications, uh, liaison. Ah, in, in their project bid, so they’re required to have that on site. OK, thank you.

00:18:11,800	Any other questions from the commission? Jerk, what What dollars do we? Take a chance and losing if we didn’t push this project forward and we talked about it for it’s been 20 years it’s been talked about, um. Is there dollars that would go away potentially if we didn’t move forward in 2024. Mayor Comm, um, yes, I would say the $73 million of federal funds would be seriously at risk, um. And also the project sequencing. would be at risk.

00:18:37,270	Right now we have split into two phases. If, if we weren’t successful in constructing it very, very soon. Um, we could see that. The, uh, the, the bulk of the federal dollar is not being available at one time, and we’d have to split it into 5 phases, 6 phases, 7 phases, and it would just It’d be

00:18:59,700	compounding disruption to the corridor, and it would get expend more and more expensive over time as well. So you figure 10 to 15 years if we do it the other way, piecemeal it out, right, yes. Any other questions? If not, we’ll move on to the public hearing. And at this time.

00:19:23,230	The public hearing is open. And if you approach the podium, please. There’s a uh. Pad there Please put your name. And your business. on that So Public hearing is open. Any comments? Hi there. My name is Scott Berger.

00:20:15,430	I’m a resident of Mandiana and I own a few multi tenant, uh, rental buildings, shop buildings that are involved in this area. Um Very in favor of it. Getting completed in a timely fashion, um, sort of have some issues as far as cost allocation. To all of the property owners. Um Not sure if there’s a better way of doing that, but. Major issue for me, I a lot of these people are business owners.

00:20:43,630	I don’t own any of the businesses that are in my buildings, but I have my attendants that I need to be able to work with. So you have these huge costs which we know we’re going to have some costs.

00:21:05,100	There’s got to be costs, but when you try to go back to your tenants and tell them, OK, this year, I’m gonna raise your rent 15%, 20%, you’re going to tenants So then as a property owner, you ended up absorbing a great portion of this. I can accept some of that, but then, and I know this goes in a little different direction, but it also has to do with. I got involved.

00:21:29,800	Then when you take into account. Over the last 10 years I’ve looked at my property taxes on two of these particular properties. One of them is only 4 or 5 years old and I’ve been running around a 9% increase on my property tax. I can’t raise rents 9% a year. That doesn’t happen. I can raise rents 234 or 5%, so.

00:21:54,770	You take that, and here again, I know we’re talking, but we combine these things because that gives you a return on investment, and it, like I said, it also affects all these businesses trying to operate out there, but you take these into account and you’re running negative as the years go by.

00:22:13,370	Um, so I have a great concern. Both the cost allocation, is there any way of Spreading it out a little amongst whether it’s uh uh. City homeowners, I know they don’t want to hear that, um, or not, and another big thing is this thoroughfare.

00:22:35,830	There’s a lot of people that travel on this that don’t hit any of these businesses. They’re going from Bismarck to South Amandan, wherever they’re going. So, That’s another issue. I won’t be long, but just Couple actually questions, um, have the bids been let as far as to know how accurate what. We’re looking at On here.

00:23:01,170	Or have they not been let yet and these are numbers that were sort of. So where is that at? And then I have one more question. I can answer that, yep, currently we’re expecting, we’re anticipating bids to be opened on December 20th, so these letters would be based on estimates at this time, wouldn’t, so we can guarantee that the final number would be different than what’s on the or

00:23:21,170	on the letter. Yep. OK, thank you. Um, And the other question would be um Whoever may be. I can remember because I’ve been, I’ve been looking at somebody mentioned 20 years I’ve been going to meetings for the last 20 years on this and unfortunately it keeps getting kicked down the road and for various reasons and the costs

00:23:41,600	keep going up, but what other costs because I know we were told last year that MDU is paying for, you know, the 3.1 million or whatever it is, uh, some of the property owners will have costs incurred to uh based on individual properties, do we know? Any of those costs or if there are any other costs

00:24:04,500	that we don’t know about that is individual property owners, we might get hit upon. So. Um, um, I think maybe, maybe what we had noted before was that, ah, the power line burying are the conversion to underground would only be happening within the right of way or within easements and um individual properties would have to follow

00:24:31,800	up with on the private side to if they wish to move underground as well, they’d have to at their own cost, um. Uh, do that on their own, otherwise I think we have most other Cost represented, um. In what we have here today.

00:24:57,970	Yep So if those, if I understand it right, if those were in because I have one particular building they did come in, they did on the ground, great. Um, so if those were in existing easement areas, say between two properties, then I won’t get assessed for that. That would be in part of this or may I get assessed for that yet or a bill from somebody.

00:25:19,700	Um So that, so that the, the cities. The city is basically just participating um in that MDU under in the mainline MDU Underground, ah. Project or kind of supplementary project, um, I wouldn’t the MDU has no assessing authority, and I don’t know if they would bill. Adjacent homeowners for that.

00:25:48,200	Mayor Frelich and Jarek and Scott, I believe that if you wanted to. Bring that line into your property. Underground that would be at your cost. Seeing nobody from MDU or anybody approached me about it, so I don’t know if they automatically do it and then. Charges for it, that’s sort of a grayer which may affect other property owners here too.

00:26:10,670	Marin Scott, I don’t want to speak for him to you, but I think they would bring a pole into your lot that if you wanted, I mean that’d be arrangement between you and MDU to make and how you want to connect that, if you want to connect that to your property underground or if you want.

00:26:25,970	Um, the existing way it’s connected and just it’s part of its underground and part of it’s above. So at this point I don’t know if I’m gonna because I never talked to anybody from MDU, so. I would presume that if you want that.

00:26:42,670	Line because I think it goes from 220 to 208 or there’s some different power hookup that that would be at your expense, not as part of this I didn’t ask for it, so what and. I don’t know. I just, I’m trying to cover gray areas that, am I gonna get a $5000 bill,,, $10,000 bill, something. Uh, mayor and, and Scott, I think that is, I don’t believe it’s MDU’s intention. To just automatically change the feed into your property.

00:27:07,270	That’s going to be up to you if to make that arrangement with MDU. OK, well. Alright Um That’s all I have for now. Thank you. Thank you, Scott. Anyone else Uh, my name is uh Dwayne Wall. I own DNS Auto and trailer on the strip.

00:27:43,300	And uh I guess Uh, if the sign on the outside said complaint department, that’s why I came in here. Uh, I got a letter like everybody else did see that my share all this stuff is Over $100,000. I don’t have an extra $100,000 laying around it just. But a walking trail in beautification for grass or whatever else you’re gonna do there.

00:28:05,570	I, I don’t, don’t have that kind of money laying around just to do that. I don’t, as a businessman, I’ve been there over 30 years. I, I don’t spend money like that unless I have a means for retrieving it in an investment.

00:28:23,970	The strip, this is probably way too late to get to this aspect of what I’m talking about, but This whole thing I’m paying over $100,000. For something that’s going to give me absolutely nothing in return. I my axis. I’m on 40th Avenue by the stoplight there and Memorial Highway, Honda across the street. I have a lot of traffic going by me on 40th Avenue. This project is going to eliminate that traffic.

00:28:43,700	It’s going to end that street and it’s gonna have dre everybody over to kiss and come out on their driveway. So I lost that furnish. Cost me $100,000 to do that, the way I look at it. So that’s gonna hurt me.

00:29:00,870	Getting to the strip From my place They’re going to change They’re going to put a median in the middle there so nobody can leave my place and turn west. I understand that, but now I have another. Access problem. None of that’s helping me make money to pay for this $100,000. None of it. hurting me And be honest with you, after this Covet stuff here.

00:29:22,330	Uh, our business is been down drastically. And this kind of thing, and I’m not the only small business in this area. That’s probably gonna be affected negatively by this. And does not have the money. In some staff someplace to just throw out $100,000 randomly support a project like this. I’m, I’m unhappy with this, and the thing is.

00:29:45,530	It’s another thing where government just does what it wants to and annoys me. It really annoys me because I can’t afford this kind of stuff. And if I have a situation to where.

00:30:02,800	Who, who, who’s gonna pay for it? I, I’m, I’m, I’m old enough to retire a while ago, a few years already, but the thing is, I’ve been there over 30, about 35 years. It’s been a family store. It still is. My oldest son works with me from day one. And I have nothing to give him. I’m going to give him property that’s worth a lot less, see that they decide to sell it.

00:30:22,570	It’s worth at least $100,000 less because I got specials on it that weren’t there. The axis is not what it used to be. The visibility to all the traffic is not what it used to be, by how you’re you’re doing that intersection where I’m at.

00:30:39,030	I’m taking a major hit on The value of the place, what I can make off of the place, what I can give to my, my son to for him to survive going down the road. This whole thing is just devastating for me. It just is. I I don’t think I can do anything about it. I probably can’t. Other than complain about it, but you know.

00:30:57,170	Uh, the little Guy is definitely losing in this situation, and I’m sure I’m not the only small businessman that is losing on that strip because of this project. And I, I just I wish that the people had planned it all out, and I was at the meetings.

00:31:14,300	We start talking about it, but I, I have the, you know, understanding that once there’s a meeting like this, it’s too late. The powers that be have already decided to do it. And that’s kind of what happened. But I, I don’t even know necessarily where this conversation is going other than I want people to hear. What’s happening to the small person, small businessmen like me, and it’s not good.

00:31:33,100	It’s, it’s just you’re gonna lose a lot of them. And it’s not that you’re talking about this progress association of her Bismarck Mandan, you know, trying to do the things to promote new business or whatever. This project’s going to kill a lot of new business. Just not, this stuff’s not gonna work. It’s not. I, I just don’t know happy. I’m sorry.

00:31:50,170	Thanks for listening to my gripe here. Thank you for your comments. Jerk Do you have the map of that section? Ah, my can certainly try. And you could you walk us through the? Renovations there um. Somewhat, yeah, I might, uh, defer to some of the HDR folks to talk about specific improvements at that location. That’s OK.

00:32:29,070	Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners Craig Mazer with HDR Engineering. We’re the consultant I’ve been working with the DOT and the city. On these improvements, um, the comments regarding 40th Avenue intersection. Thereby kiss livestock we will be realigning that intersection. Essentially right now it’s at a skewed, uh, angle, if you will.

00:32:52,430	Uh, which is not safe, uh, you know, for, um, site distance, some of the operations. We also want to look at a lot of the access in that area, uh, trying to again alleviate some of the access points with the intersection and the turning movements that are occurring there at 40th.

00:33:10,570	So those are some of the improvements that we’re looking at, uh, they’re at the intersection and to do that. will be reigning 40th, uh, almost to a 90, we don’t quite get to 90 degrees, but we almost get, uh, close to 90 degrees. I don’t have that figure here with me.

00:33:28,730	Uh, we can certainly follow up with, with some of that information, um, but essentially it, it shifts the alignment of 40th. A little bit over to the west of where it currently is. To to more align and and be at a right angle with Memorial Highway. Again, kind of hard to explain without the figure here, but, um, provides a little bit more.

00:33:47,430	Uh, real estate to the, the comment we heard between 40th and the existing property. So essentially there’ll be a, a little bit, a little bit of extra, um. Right of way there if you will between. The roadway 40th and the existing property line. They’ll be a The turning lanes will still be there, right? You could turn west and. Correct.

00:34:11,030	So West off of 40th, yes. Um, do you know if, um, DNS will maintain that approach directly from Memorial Highway. Uh, uh Into their property so they can drive right out of their, um their trailers show a lot on the Memorial Highway as it is now.

00:34:40,970	Yeah, main Commissioners, uh, Comm Schoberg, that’s, that’s correct, um, access will be maintained off a 40th. As well as Memorial Highway. OK. Yes sir That’s correct. I make you go So is that? Where it, it going at the stop like, Got customers, my So They 32 I They’re not going to be able to maneu a I I to be Mhm 400 used to come out.

00:35:38,670	It’s a pretty good job over a kiss. O Takes them away from me. with. Thank you. Is there a cul-de-sac? Being planned Mayor and Commissioners, uh, Mayor Felix, I’m not aware of, I guess the specific, uh, cul de sac location. Uh, 40th will continue to go through. And be a signalized intersection. There at Memorial Highway. Yes, sir.

00:36:18,100	Everything that I saw. change something. Top 40th Avenue at my place because. I look at that there over Go to my place Yeah What I confused you’re You can’t get a more Got to how are people going to get. harder you get the whites.

00:36:54,300	You cut it off That’s how people would drive The wife to turn Jaco were to go over to Kiro. Ha To get the right place. Need to have a map up here. the looks like We’re just kind of throwing Right. OK. Jarek, you got a map? Um, we don’t have, I was gonna say I I have Google. I’ve handy old Google Google Earth here, Mr.

00:37:30,870	Wall, if you could step up and speak into the microphone, then we can get you on record because you’re, you’re not getting picked up right now, so it would be great for future reference to have what you have to say on. On the, on the camera.

00:37:50,870	So Mayor Frelick, if you can see my mouse here, um, the alignment will go over. And then swing back so that it can intersect Memorial Highway at a near 90 degree angle rather than this skewed angle that it’s currently at. But Um, it will still connect and be, you’ll be able to. Do these movements as they exist today.

00:38:12,830	It’s just that vehicles will We’ll be going on a curved road instead of a straight road. And now, now that I get this explanation, I can see things have changed since the first plan that I was given. Uh, the first plan was to eliminate 40th Avenue completely accessing onto the Moora Highway and makes you get over to the kissed entry.

00:38:39,030	Now it looks like you’re going to retain 40th Avenue, if I, is that correct? We meeting Memorial Highway, it’s just going to veer over. Yes, OK, well, that, that’s a better plan. That’s a better plan than what you had before. I didn’t realize that it was changed, uh.

00:38:59,970	The other It still doesn’t change my $100,000 that I’ve got to come up with to pay for this little project. Uh Which As I’m understanding here, you aren’t necessarily done with that either, you, there may be more. Uh, things get, the bids get open or whatever.

00:39:25,300	Jerk Um, Mayor, yes, um, the, the numbers that we have are just an estimate, and they will be different. We have, uh, we feel that we have. Um Built in contingencies for that could absorb any unexpected costs, but, um, we feel like we have a pretty good estimate at this stage. W we’ll know more next month. OK, thank you. Anybody else? Uh, board, my name is Bill Stork.

00:40:01,700	I have the property at 3708 Memorial Highway. Uh, it’s the Harley Davidson dealership there. Uh This thing started like somebody said 20 years ago, I didn’t realize it was that long, but, uh, we, we were having meetings, uh, 3 to 5 years ago at the bowling alley, and we would get a talk with the engineers and at that

00:40:19,230	time, uh, the assessed value is somewhere in the mid-thirties for my property, and now it’s 94,000. Um, I don’t know how we got from, from there to here, obviously costs go up, the cost of building everything, the cost of everything’s gone up. Um, so I understand that.

00:40:37,600	Uh, we do want to see improvement, but, uh, at the cost, the value is not there, um. For our property, this, there’s no benefit to me. Um As a matter of fact, for 3 years, there’ll be a, a major reduction of traffic to my business. There are 4 motorcycle dealerships, uh, on or for shops, motorcycle shops on Memorial Highway.

00:41:01,970	And uh unless they keep a surface. So when it’s wet, is ridable by motorcycles, it’s going to impact all four of these, uh, motorcycle shops, uh, heavily, um, yeah, when people, when people want to come buy our product, they’re gonna come buy our product regardless of of what the road condition is, but there’s people that just come

00:41:20,700	there to hang out and, and buy clothes and get service work done and, and this is, this is gonna seriously for those 3 years, this project is going on, is going to impact our business in a great deal in a negative manner. Um The benefit that we gain from it is 0.

00:41:38,830	Now I understand that there are some places, some properties along this road that have some water issues cause I see, uh, my neighbor across the street, uh, Kellerhart and Homs. It looks like he’s got a lake in his parking lot half the time he gets even a decent sized rain, um.

00:41:56,600	Little selfish of me, but I don’t have that problem. Um, there was, there was talks that they were gonna make me share an entrance to my property with the Guy that’s next door to me and he’s got a dirt parking lot. Again, that doesn’t make any sense. Um I’m just, I just oppose, uh, the way that the assessment’s gone on this.

00:42:16,270	Everybody I’ve talked to, I know many people that have businesses along the strip, and I would say the average is $100,000 for per property. And You know, maybe I can absorb that a little bit better than than some, but there’s, there’s some places that I do believe it’ll make him go out of business.

00:42:36,500	Um It’s It’s just disappointing that it’s at $35,000 I was thinking, well, you know, we can deal with that, but, but here we are, we’re, we’re up against 100,000 now per property, a lot of properties along that stretch. That’s all I’ve got to say. Thank you. Thank you, Bill. Jarek, what were the Maybe, uh, Mr. Dubauer knows this.

00:42:58,370	What were the costs before COVID for this project. Um, Mayor Frelich, uh, I know that the costs at the time that we capped. The projects, the roadway portion was estimated to be 58 million. Like cause that’s, that’s our cap was 10% we were capped at 10% of the cost at that time.

00:43:20,470	And now our our costs have not gone up, but the cost of the project has escalated overall, the cost of the project have have escalated, um, our roadway portion is capped, but the utility improvements. Um, we, we are getting hit by all of those increases. Right. OK thank you. Anyone else Hello, Mayor Commissioners, my name is Randy Roland.

00:43:59,400	I’m a business owner and developer have um some of the properties I own on Memorial Highway are tier 1 and tier 2, probably 9 properties affected. I’ve been, uh, like the rest of the gentleman that had been speaking in regards to this that.

00:44:18,500	It’s, uh, it’s been a long time coming, and if we’re still talking about this 1020 years from now, I guarantee it’s gonna be even more money. Um, I said this way back when I said it’s gonna probably bankrupt a lot of little little guys on the strip. It’s gonna definitely clean up the strip. Um, but it comes at a cost.

00:44:39,800	Way back when, you know, the meetings at the bowling alley, I would have liked to, uh, know like, you know, anytime we can beautify something, I’d like to know what costs and it’s hard just saying, yeah, let’s make it beautiful, not knowing the cost. So now, um.

00:44:56,730	Um, but last week, Wednesday, I finally got a cost of what it’s gonna cost, so now I can start making educated decisions and I just wish you guys would have gave me a little bit more time on the 3 days, uh, 3 business days with Halloween with families and everything going on, it was short notice, so. I threw together a letter and communicated with Jarek. He answered a lot of my questions.

00:45:12,300	Thank you so much. Um I did talk to Mitch in regards to uh some of the sanitary sewer. I figured with this big of a project, you know, we should have got a little bit more notice as far as the actual cost before we move ahead and then we got this 3 business

00:45:27,900	days of response because uh a male, mail delays and all that. Of the $120 million excuse me, I’m fighting a cold of the $120 million. Total, uh, the city shares basically 18 million of that with 60% of the 18 million being strictly to the tier 1 and tier 2. Um, properties.

00:45:53,930	Which I’m all about being fair, and if The of the $12.4 million assessments, which is the bulk of the the everybody’s, it’s not a citywide assessment, I believe. On that we would have, um, you know, like new sanitary sewer.

00:46:15,300	Water lines And, um Electrical coming through there, but if there’s any upstream users on them lines, you know, I’d only be fair for, of course, everybody to pay their fair share, but as Mitch pointed out that the sanitary sewer that dumps from, you know, mid North Man and doesn’t go through the ship there, so thanks for giving me that information. And then I, excuse me, I always said that, uh, you know, um.

00:46:35,000	And I’ll recap this letter without reading it all, but. Uh, where we’re positioned with the Missouri River, um, Mandan and the bridges we got going across to connect to Bismarck our uh major thoroughfare for southwestern North Dakota to get to.

00:46:52,700	Bismarck, let’s say, and the only elder ax access point to cross that river going south is Morbridge, South Dakota, so of course, there’s a larger impact to this highway than a normal highway.

00:47:11,800	It’s not just from city users because it’s pulling from a huge region, so of the of that I know that Jarek said that the states more than happy to put in more and the feds are doing their share, but it’d be nice to, uh, maybe look at that assessment where we could pull a little bit more money. From them guys knowing this is servicing more than just the residents of Mandan because it is a major connection point unless somebody plans on building a bridge south of here.

00:47:28,930	Um, a few other things I’m gonna just read through my, I had two properties we had severe discrepancies on these properties from. When I ran the math on them versus other properties and and existing properties and some that I got, it was like the assessment versus frontage, you know, it was like where are we getting these numbers from, it’d be

00:47:46,070	nice so I could have the information so I could do my own calculations based on your guys’s calculations to figure this out of all about being fair. Um, out of the nine properties, I only had 2 that I had an issue with and.

00:48:03,670	One didn’t have hardly any frontage, but it went 500 ft deep and no value, so it should have been a hybrid tier one slash tier two assessment based on that’s what I I thought anyways, that would be fair, um, because it doesn’t have a lot of frontage.

00:48:22,270	And the other one I have a, a, um, we have a shopping center that’s a 4 acre property, Memorial Square shopping center, then I got the next property to at Senex, the Senex lot I call it, it’s a two acre property, but My specials on the smaller property that’s half the size are $10,000 more than the property right right next door, that’s.

00:48:42,170	Twice as big So you can see where these discrepancies are, it’s kind of confusing, so I don’t know how the old calculators work, but I’d like to see, you know, and get be more transparent with how we came up with these calculations, so then. Everybody in these areas can go through the numbers and see, including what the neighbors and where everybody’s paying.

00:49:01,770	As far as uh Duane’s incensor offsetting that in to come at 90 degree corner, it makes sense for public safety. But, uh, on that aspect, it comes at a cost to him and he’s on one of the nasty corners with that median.

00:49:17,730	Divider and we have a property like that on over by McDonald’s, but anyways, I think, uh, you know, something like that, I’m guessing you guys did probably uh. You bought an easement from Kiss Livestock to make that big 90 into their property work, you know, maybe offset it with, um, you know, given that half an acre to wean offset is $100,000 maybe because I don’t know what the city would do with it anyways.

00:49:35,100	Um, another thing is, you know, the 2020 year amortization. Um, doing that on 2020 year, and we don’t know the current interest rates and what the city. City projects are running and what what you guys are gonna uh fund a map, but.

00:49:55,970	I figured if we had some cost overruns with a 5% uh um interests on these project over the course of 20 years, um, some of this improvement on this particular property could run up to Um, 3.

00:50:14,570	5 times what our, uh, what our expected, uh, what our quote is basically, and I don’t know how many of your projects in the last 5 years have come in under budget, but you know, hopefully they do, I guess. Um I mean, there’s good things and bad things with this, and I think it’ll become more good than bad.

00:50:33,130	You know it’s just the pains of going through this for right now, but I don’t know if we could look at the amortization a little bit more and and and see just about about being fair on everything and and probably put posting some things on the Internet where we could. through the calculations on how this tier one and tier properties were. You know, calculated. But that, uh, that’s pretty much about all, um,,, 11 property in particular, I’mlike Scott. Um, our current rants.

00:50:58,230	At $2000 a month, but if I have the specials with the existing property tax that continues to go up year over year over year, um, basically 7/12 of my year, so 7 out of 12 months is gonna pay just for the specials and the property taxes.

00:51:15,270	And that doesn’t leave much left in the end to carry all the other expenses, so on some of these properties we’re gonna have to raise rents and and all that so and or try to if we ain’t on contract. But that’s about it. Thank you too. Have a good evening. Thank you, Randy. Anyone else Hey, good afternoon. My name is Maria Higgins, and I own. Ah, small lot over there at Memorial Highway.

00:51:49,930	My only question here is to find out. How The base the specials because my lot there is only, it’s considered 6 lads, but those lads are small. It’s like one of them.06 acre.11 acre 0.11 and There’s a total of 0.66 of an acre, so, uh, when I found out 3 days ago, the specials.

00:52:24,130	It’s not even worth the price of the land. How they based on it and I found out that there are There are people who are having a Land also there there spats was just 1/3 of what they are putting on my. I cannot pay those. It’s 316,000 plus. And I don’t know how they base it.

00:52:51,330	Where they base it. And I’m not making money out of that, uh, taxes will be rising. And I’m only having like $2000 a month for that, so. I want to know where the base set because my land is only 0.

00:53:15,000	66 and there are some who have big lot over there and I found out it’s their specials are just 1/3 of what they are putting on mine. That’s all I want to know. Thank you. Jerk, thank you. Commissioners, yes, um, so this would be kind of a result of the way we’re currently calculating specials which is splitting them into 3 size categories, small, medium, and large.

00:53:38,530	And then she would have 6. Small, um, parcels and it would be 6 per parcel assessments, they all kind of stack on top of each other at that point in time. Um, it’s how we’re calculating right now, calculating it right now.

00:54:03,970	The ultimate goal of the assessment calculation is to fairly represent benefit, so in unique situations like this, we, we may, may need to take a closer look and see how that’s affecting these kind of unique cases and see if there’s A better calculation method that works for the entire, the entire district, um, this is a process that will, you know, The assessments that we’ve uh or the estimates that we sent out.

00:54:28,470	Um are Just estimates at this stage the final verification process would happen after project completion, which would likely be the summer of 2028 where we would go through, we would go through all of this again and make sure that it fairly represents benefit to each property. OK, thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. Uh, my name is Annette Beam Caldwell.

00:54:59,570	Another motorcycle group here. My husband Dusty and I have open road Honda. We’re right across from Mister Duane. Um, I had a direct question. You keep referring to small, medium, and large.

00:55:17,670	What’s the basis of small, medium, and large? Is it parcel size? Is it building size? Is it rooftop? Is it frontage? I’ve asked that question since we first started this process, and I’ve never gotten an answer. And I need to groove with Dwayne, um. We’re losing an access on the west side of our building.

00:55:38,200	We’re losing an entrance to our building, so at our own personal cost last year, um, when this is verified by the engineering, um, we built another access to our property at the far north end of the property because we have a lot of farmers come in with stock trailers, um, and we need to have that, that ingress, egress. Um, and I’m gonna agree with Bill Stork. This is a thoroughfare.

00:55:55,630	You can come and sit in front of my building any day and you’ll see cars going from one end to the other. Very few. are stopping if they come to our business or Bill’s business, it’s a purpose. Driven Visit. No one pulls by and goes, Hey, I’m going to stop in and see what’s going on at the Honda shop.

00:56:19,070	I also, we are gonna have 3 years of challenges with our customers. Um, who don’t want to drive into the traffic who don’t want to drive in the construction and our joke is, get ready to deliver and pick up because that’s all we’re gonna do in the next 3 years to assist our customers.

00:56:37,370	We are experiencing rising costs with property tax which goes up year after year after year. Another thing I want to mention, guys, is we all just noticed, man and sales tax is going up, and if the Morton County tax passes, we’re going to be over 8% in the sales tax that we pay for the supplies that we buy to run our

00:56:52,070	business. Cause we shop local. That’s 8% sales tax, so there’s an increase property tax, sales tax, and now this. I’m like Dwayne. I, I wish I had this much money. I wish we were this successful that we could just go, not a problem. I know this project has to happen.

00:57:17,900	When we built our building in 2006, we, we brought in field dirt cause we had to have it as high as Memorial Highway. Now y’all are bringing Memorial Highway down. And the The definition of based off of your benefit. Who’s whose version of benefit? So this, um, I, I applaud the the engineering. This is a tough decision.

00:57:44,030	But we’ve had these conversations over and over and over, and I feel like they’re just wasted time. And Memorial highway needs manned in and Mannan needs Memorial Highway. Thank you Annette. And you bring up a good point. They’re interchangeable and so I would. Hope we start to look at Memorial Highway.

00:58:13,800	Uh, more as an extension of Mandan Main Street. And a vibrant commercial area which it is already, but I think with the. Uh Renovation of the roadway. Uh, it’s going to be even more attractive and maybe people aren’t just driving by, they’re actually stopping. More than they already are. So Jarek, do you have a rendering of The highway I can take a look.

00:58:49,070	I hope that I have it here and I do. So I do have it pulled up on the screen right now. Ma, anything else I can do. Yes, sir. Can you go to the mic or we could. I’ve seen another problem here.

00:59:47,730	Where is sex or property gonna come from where the cars are parked on either side facing the highway. I mean That means my property. Honda’s property, Harley’s property is gonna have to, they’re gonna have to lose some property to make that little parking space you got there. Well, that’s just a rendering. That’s a, that’s not a real Guy on a bike either. That’s just the artist rendition.

01:00:05,900	Few of those cars are parked. I see that facing. Yes, that, but that’s this is. This is just a rendering. So you’re not gonna do that? No, you’re not gonna have parking like that. No. Scared me. I mean, you would have it. I suppose that some of the car dealerships it would look like that, but I don’t.

01:00:28,330	See, we don’t, we don’t Jared, could you comment on that clientele is not like that to where they come and shop and walk up and down the street like a shopping center. That’s not gonna happen. No, but Mayor, I believe this rendering is showing um private.

01:00:45,870	private parking lots adjacent to the corridor, so this would be Your, your bowling alley parking lot right here and this would be. The car dealership. Yep You have a Did you have Um, I do have, we do have intersection, intersection typical section here. It would have the channelized. Senator Trinling What’s the of the highway is the.

01:01:28,070	Like that can be And that would he asked what side of the highway with the bike path be on, and that would be on the southwest side. OK, thank you, Jak. Jerk, well, there, I’m sorry, Jarek, would there be some sidewalk on the northeast side on the eastern half of the project, Mayor Comm, there would be a sidewalk on the northeast side of the

01:01:51,070	project from 46th to 40th, I believe. And then the remaining. portion of the corridor would be graded so that sidewalk could be installed, but it’s not being installed as part of the project. Thank you. Anyone else My name’s Casey Haback speaking on behalf of Scooter Shack at 2014 Memorial Highway.

01:02:31,600	Um, I am with Annette Bill Duane. This highway is for. To commute for everybody. Not just us And we are a small mom and pop shop and the ways the taxes and our specials keep getting raised and our answers our questions aren’t getting answered. We’re getting pushed out. And when you say that there’s going to be access for Harley, Honda.

01:03:06,400	Action motor sports, Dakota customs, scooter jack. What kind of access are we looking at for our customers. That we still have access to test ride motorcycles. In and out. For our customers to bring their bikes for a quick oil change, tire change. For them to wait.

01:03:33,600	What are we looking at? Are we losing more business? So, um, during the course of the project, there would be temporary asphalt roadways constructed to maintain access and does that asphalt extend into the approaches, or how does that? for It, it’d be gravel for some approaches? OK. So That is what is currently proposed. In the plans. So As gravel, as we all know, is.

01:04:03,570	I mean, we all ride. Well, that in the dealerships and Some customers are more experienced, some aren’t. Uh, Either way, when the strip was done the last time, the grade was made higher coming into the scooter shack’s approach. Therefore, when we have custom motorcycles, you have to go at an angle. So that they don’t Bott out.

01:04:28,670	On their frames. Which is hazardous, so when we’re doing these approaches to our businesses because we all have custom motorcycles coming in and out. Are we going to make sure that that grade is. Sufficient I mean, we’re, what is the benefit again for the specials for all of us small businesses.

01:04:57,670	We’re losing We’re getting pushed out more and more. I just, it’s, it’s a general highway for everybody. Used throughout. Well, we can only special assess the city. And we The city is paying. The city is being assessed. But only in different regions, right? So the whole city is paying. Correct, but I agree with Annette and with her small 6 properties and everybody else.

01:05:34,900	There’s not a In Randy RRoan, there’s, it’s not equal, it’s not equally proportioned. It’s It needs better proportioning. Throughout Thank you. That’s all I have. Thank you, Casey. I, I guess I have a question for the engineering company, please.

01:06:10,770	I started as a police officer with Ben NPD in 1979, and I remember what the old two-lane Memorial Highway. It was like no highway of death. Um And they did raise that. Quite a bit. I, in my understanding correctly that Memorial Highway will be, uh, uh, dropped down, um. Roughly 2 ft. From where it is now, however, there will be some undulation in that to account for proper dispersal of storm water.

01:06:41,470	Mayor Freli, Comm, uh, Comm Schoberg, that’s correct, uh, with going to an urban section, uh, the roadway profile for the most part will be lower than existing.

01:07:01,030	And to your point, exactly right that uh, uh, I don’t wanna say a sawtooth, but you will see, uh, the, the profile, uh, kind of going up and down some of those, uh. Uh, great changes that you noted to make sure that that stormwater can be captured into the urban storm sewer system. So that’s correct. And, and to perhaps answer some of uh Casey’s concerns. This communications fellow that’s gonna be on site.

01:07:30,600	Will he have some latitude to work with the individual businesses as far as the Temporary approaches reference angle of uh departure and approach. And Comm, Comm Schoberg. The plan will have, uh, public information coordinator as part of, uh, what the contractor will have to provide, and that’s uh correct. Part of that intent is to provide communication between what the contractor is doing.

01:07:56,230	In the individual businesses, uh, in addition to that, I would also be assisting with getting communication out with city staff as well as, uh, the rest of the residents and traveling public, so, uh, correct some of that coordination will be between the project and the business owners.

01:08:23,000	I might be micromanaging a little bit here, so forgive me, but well, the businesses Be be given that phone number for that uh contact for that coordinator. Many Commissioners, Comm Schoberg, that is something that we could pass along to the.

01:08:45,330	DOT, uh, through the, the project and the, in the process and, um, even working with, uh, the team here at the city that may be something we want to consider, uh, too early on to send the information out, tell the business owners to keep folks, uh, informed. Some of these details, I understand is, are, are gonna be on the fly type things, you know. I just wanted to give a little bit of, uh, Consideration to some of the concerns that were voiced. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you.

01:09:26,630	Anyone else Mayor Commissioners, um, I own. two properties down here, one tier one and one tier 2. Um Like Randy said, I think the letters could have come sooner. With the special assessment that some very steep cost. On a very short time frame for us to, um, digest it’s. I don’t know, I feel. Little steep are tier one.

01:09:51,530	Cost which is an empty lot is $100,000. That causes us directly on to us and then we have tier 2. Um, which is 35,000 and the business that we operate on which seems more manageable. I just, I feel that, uh.

01:10:14,670	Costs are a little high for the assessments and I think that it should be a little more spread out through the city, um. Somehow to get the cost down. Ru business owners on the strip. I’m sorry, could you Identify yourself and your business. Uh, Cody Stern, any leaks Incorporated, and then West of her properties, the holding company with the empty lot, the tier one. Thank you, Cody. Nothing else. Thank you.

01:10:42,300	Thank you, um, Jarek. Um, I, I don’t mean to throw you under the bus, um, but earlier in your presentation, you indicated that you could, um. Possibly meet with some of the business owners, uh, either tonight or at a later date to to work some of the details out.

01:11:01,900	Uh, Mayor Comm Schoberg, absolutely, you know, when we do these assessments we’re, we’re or these assessment estimates were painting with a broad brush stroke, um, we’re evaluating 300 properties simultaneously and um.

01:11:23,330	the property owners know their properties better than we do, um, and You know, we’re not infallible, so we might make mis mistakes where um a property we have categorized as a, a water main and service improvement might be a. Distribution enhancements improvement based on How, how they, how they, um, how they use the water system, the city’s water system, so happy, happy to, to go over what we have categorized and, and uh make any corrections that need to be made.

01:11:48,000	Thank you, Jarek to, to build on that, so that was one of Annette’s questions was, You know, square footage roof, you know, uh, frontage, you know, how rough, you know, roof footage, um, to, you know, Cody’s comment about, you know, empty lots, you know, in comparison to those places with, with operating businesses, um, so would you say that? When you

01:12:10,400	were, it was a broad stroke, but you assessed based on square footage or, or how did you come to those? Mayor Comm He Shan, yes, it was a square footage of the lot. Calculation and we uh, we split it into 3 classes, small, medium, large, using a classification method called natural, uh, natural brakes optimization.

01:12:32,200	And what that does is it minimizes the variance within a class and maximizes the variance between classes, so we used, uh, we used a What we feel is a good statistical method to make an objective. Breakpoint for small, medium, and large parcels in each of the tier groups.

01:12:53,130	We did that individually tier one and also did it for tier 2 properties, so. Those, those, those two tiers have no influence on the other. Thank you. OK, thank you, Jarek. city administrator Neubau, I guess I got one question for you if you don’t mind.

01:13:17,730	Um Folks, I’m, we’re still new here, all three of us, 3 of us came on board July 1st, so. We’re still learning, um, but some of the stuff that we’ve learned so far is there are, are, are time constraints put on certain processes leading up to, um, Say a public meeting or protest situation. Um, are those applied by this or recommended by the state or the federal government.

01:13:42,200	Mayor Frelich and Comm Schoberg, the, um, special assessment timelines are set out by North Data Century Code on when the commission creates the district and advertises that district, um, in our main end news is when that time, that 30 day time period for protest begins.

01:14:06,370	And so we send out the courtesy letters as a courtesy to show folks in tier 1 and tier 2 in this case, um, what their proposed assessments may be. And there’s a 30 day window, um, again, based on North Dakota Century Code on how long that period remains open. OK. That answers some questions. No, not really. Um Casey Habeck again, Mayor Commissioners, um.

01:14:37,170	Who gets the mandanus? You’re Frelich and Commissioners and Casey, um, our. By century code, that’s who we have to advertise in. The letters, like I said, are there’s no requirement that we send those letters out informing folks of you’re in a district and here’s the proposed assessment.

01:15:00,770	We do that because we think that’s being transparent with the property owners on you’re in a district, here’s the amount that we are estimating you pay, um, but as far as the subscription rate for the Mandan news, I don’t know. Um, that is something that is voted on every 4 years, I believe, by residents as to if we want to declare the Mandan news the official.

01:15:17,900	Newspaper of the city you have to be subscribed to get the Mannus, correct? I believe so, yes. OK. Um Our water bill We get our mandan update with our monthly water bill. I read it every month. Um Why couldn’t it be A little blurp in there for us. Because like me and the rest of the business owners.

01:15:42,870	Um Have 4 or 5 days to So Where we’re all coming from is we didn’t have enough time. There’s business owners and property owners that don’t live in North Dakota. Were those responses their protest emails were those accepted as part of this.

01:16:11,300	Protest American Commissioners in Casey, the, um, If we received the protests by 4:30 yesterday, I think we certainly counted it, um. The, again. Yes, I’m not going to say there’s a lot of subscri subscribers to the Mandan news. I don’t know what their subscription rate is. We did have a extensive article in the Mandan Messenger and the October edition, which went out.

01:16:34,670	Um Roughly a month ago, I think, so there was, like I said, we did indicate how this project entails and the funding sources that were um gathered for this, so we did advertise that in the Mandan in the Mandan Messenger and in the e-messenger.

01:16:54,930	But I don’t remember reading in the Messenger as far as anything about the assessments or a 30 day window for protests or anything like that. I I’m just, we’re We were given short notice. Um There was a lot of knowledge we didn’t know that there was tier 1 A B tier 2 A B, um, all these different breakdowns. And Yeah, I mean like me representing my parents right now.

01:17:27,470	These assessments Are a quarter of what were Worth per se. And so as far as the beautification, it’s a highway. We’re not looking for beauty. I think Mayor Frelich and Casey, I think we have done. Um Quite a bit in the world of Minimizing any of the frills.

01:17:55,800	And landscaping and things like that that you will see in the plans on the corridor we have minimize that to a great degree that has been suggested. There are things that things that we are required to do to meet DOT requirements and federal highway requirements.

01:18:12,500	Some of those are the medians that you’ll see some of those are the, the walking trail that you see, those are, you know, those are. We don’t We aren’t able to negotiate some of those items. They’re, they’re part of you want the federal money, you want the state money. This is what you have to do to do it, um, but again, I think that uh.

01:18:27,130	And we have met the state requirements as far as giving a 30 day. Window And we have done um the courtesy letters that go out, like a lot of cities in North Dakota do. Thank you. Thank you. I apologize.

01:18:51,330	I got, I got one more thing, I guess the biggest thing with the 20 with the 20 year amortization, if we could spread it out, is there a possibility to spread it on a longer longer note, like a 30 year. How about subsidizing the interest on that with like uh eliminate the sales tax refund, the cap of $25 you know, going up on that. Which only would affect transactions over $1750 or more.

01:19:13,200	Um, to help subsidize some of that uh interest because what is current interest on this type of project? Mayor Freelich and, and Randy, we, we think we can’t guarantee this. Um, we I tell you that we have just recently gone out to market. On our last special assessment projects and our interest rate, I think was 3.8. About 4% we believe after.

01:19:43,000	Some changes in some refunding loan programs in North Dakota, like I, I can’t promise this, but I think what we’ll be doing is applying for 2% money. So which is a significant savings. In that world, so, um, that’s what we’re working on right now.

01:20:03,930	I can’t guarantee what what interest rates are going to be in 2028 when we may special assess and on this project, but right now we’re looking at, um, we’re hoping and, and we think we’re we’re pretty, pretty successful in obtaining 2% money to do this project. Thank you. Is there a way that we could take it on a lot longer amortization or not with that kind of interest.

01:20:21,000	I think we have Mayor Frelich and and Randy, we typically on the concrete roadways will amortize those over a 20 year period rather than asphalt we’ll do over 15 shorter life span, 20 years, we try and do it over the lifespan of like you’re depreciating your buildings.

01:20:40,730	We’re, we’re trying to go over that 20 year life span because there may be needed repairs come year 21 or 25. That we don’t like to really double up and come back and say we’re here 25 years later, you’re still paying on the original assessment and here comes another one so we try not, we tried our best not to do that. Sounds good. Thank you.

01:20:57,300	Thank you, Randy. Anyone else Um, ran administrator Neubauer, uh, Randy touched on the, uh,,, $25 tax, but that is, um, That’s a mandated, there’s a level for that, correct? Uh, Mayor Fre, Comm Hainon, um, that cap will be moving as of January 1st, um, because of the, you know, the half cent sales tax that will

01:21:23,570	be going on, um, was an initiated measure brought forth by citizens. The commission did not. Vote to bring that to a vote of the people that was initiated measure but that will be in effect, um, after. The first of the year.

01:21:45,430	And that sales tax cap will move up from, I think, $25 to Whatever that next amount will be. Might be 56 or might be $36. I’m not sure exactly what it will be. But that will move as of January 1. Any other citizens. The 3rd and final call. For comments Hearing none, the public meeting is now closed. Fishers if you move to K 4.

01:22:36,730	I would look for a Motion May I make a comment? first or not? You, you may. Um First of all, thank you very much. This is where our country is based on is. Exactly why you’re here. And, and, uh, As new guys I know that the 3 of us really appreciate. Taking your time.

01:23:02,330	There have been some very valid points that were raised and uh I know that uh that uh Jarek is very committed to his job and to our citizenry, so. I know he and I don’t take that. Your, your presence here lightly, OK.

01:23:28,970	Um Because again on on election day, this is what our country is all about, and I thank you for showing up tonight and voicing your opinions, because that’s what this is, um. Form is for That being said, um, In my short time here I’ve also been able to observe things that happen. Uh, under this roof.

01:23:55,830	And, uh, I can’t make any promises because they don’t know how things work in their entirety now, and I probably won’t know all of that until after years passed. a healthy, um, after my 50 years in public safety is The staff under this roof, um, Since July 1st has been ready, willing, and able to Work To the best of their degree within the confines placed on us by federal and state regulations.

01:24:29,530	To, um, Assist Our citizenry In making this community a better place to live. Um, so with that being said, I’ll take the heat. I’ve been a man without a country before, and I’m ready to be a man without a country again. So I’ll make the motion. Uh, I moved to approve the resolution determining the insufficiency of protest for street improvement district.

01:24:56,630	to 39 Second, We have motioned by Comm Schoberg, a second by Comm Braun. Any further discussion? Hearing none roll call, please. Monsieur Schoberg Hainon Braun. Yes, Mayor Frelich. Yes And again I would like to echo Comm Schoberg’s comments. Thank you all very much for participating tonight. All your comments are not taken lightly. And with that We will move.

01:25:32,930	I lost my place here. Then. H Oh no, wait, I’m sorry. It We’ll go on to share. Mayor Frelich, I think we’re on the bids portion. Let’s go to give everybody a chance to OK Jerk bids. Consider old Red Trail shared use Path mill and overlay bids.

01:26:22,600	Mayor Commissioners on October 12th or on October 11th, the North Dakota Department of Transportation opened construction bids for the park district’s old red trail shared use path Mill and Olay Project. Um, this is a mill and overlay on a 10 ft wide path on the southwest side of Old Red Trail from 30th Avenue, Northwest to Sunset Drive.

01:26:47,130	Um, this is part of the the North Dakota Department of Transportation transportation alternative program, and it is, uh, it has 80% federal funds allocated to it for the construction of the project, um, the low bid was submitted by Strata Corporation in the amount of $425,000 change.

01:27:07,900	The local share of this is estimated to be about at about $81,000 and this is a path we, we kind of act as a path through for the Park District to access these federal funds, so the city would be assessing 100% of that cost back to the park district. Um, and I have confirmed that with Park District, um, executive director. Um, it would be our recommendation to award the bid to strata Corporation as presented.

01:27:34,500	Any questions, Jarek? Jerre, the, uh We talked about this earlier. This, uh, projects bid championed by the North Dakota Department of Transportation correct that is correct, Comm I ask that is Thursday night we have a public hearing on that entire sunset. Avenue interchange with I-94. So, um, Whatever might get um. Adjusted during that construction phase.

01:28:11,330	Well Most likely be handled by the North Dakota Highway Department, as far as repairing. Mayor Comm, yes, where those two projects overlap the the Department of Transportation would be, should be aware of, of where they might overlap, and they would be making a um. A decision Whether or not to.

01:28:36,030	Accommodate One project during the other, I think, yeah, in the timing’s still up in the air with that entire project anyway, right? Mayor Comm, absolutely. So it would behoove us to Pursue the Millen overlay at this point to prevent any potential um injuries to people that are using that pathway. That would be our recommendation, yes. Thank you.

01:29:01,530	Any other questions? Hearing none I moved toward the bid to Strata Corporation as presented. Second We have a motion by Comm Braun, a second by Comm Schoberg. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call, please. Comm Braun. Yes. Schoberg. Hans, Mayor Frelich, yes. Gender item H consent agenda, uh. We are not going to read the consent agenda going forward.

01:29:36,700	Commissioners, you have the opportunity to Pull any items from the consent agenda, but what I’m looking for here is just emotion. To pass the consent agenda as presented. I make a motion tour. Uh, the, except the consent agenda as presented. I second then. We have a motion by Comm Hacha is seconded by Comm Schoberg.

01:30:05,600	And he further discussion, hearing none roll call, Comm Schoberg, Eon, Ron, yes, Mayor Frelich. Yes. Madam J, new business. Consider engineering service agreement to complete the design of 8th Avenue Northwest and Twenty-seventh Street. Jarek Mayor Commissioners, um. Yes, I’m going to pull up a map here so I can reference it.

01:30:39,830	Um, this summer we completed a project that included the reconstruction of Eighth Avenue Northwest between Old Red Trail and 24urth Street, the project that was completed this summer was originally part of a larger project that would have also included the reconstruction of Eth Avenue Northwest between 24th Street and 27th Street, as well as Twenty-seventh Street between 8th Avenue Northwest in 1806, so it is an L-shaped.

01:31:02,300	Um portion that was left out of the original project scope, um, highlighted here in your packet, uh. If that makes it easier to visualize. Um, the design for the portion that was left out of the construction project this summer is, um, Very far along, 80% complete, um, might be a good estimate, um.

01:31:31,100	We have put this project onto the state transportation improvement plan for 2028. And we currently have $4 million authorized for the improvement of the remaining segments. Um With that said, we would like to advance construct if, if the opportunity, uh, presented itself, or um Federal funds needed to be reallocated to a project.

01:32:02,630	So, um, we are recommending to amend um Moore’s design or Moore’s contract. To finish the design and submit it to the North Dakota Department of Transportation so that we would be positioned to receive federal funds if they became available. Um The Uh, the, uh, amendment or the engineering service agreement totals about $243,000.

01:32:33,070	And um would include uh design, yeah, I think there’s a, there’s a uh schedule of values, uh, outlined in the attachment and um it would include uh your typical design work as well as um some additional time for project coordination over that extended time period. It’d be our recommendation to approve it, um, but I’ll stand for any questions.

01:32:58,030	Jerre at this time, this is simply a request to consider. The Design only phase we’re not talking about any build at this point, Mayor Comm Schoberg, that’s correct. This would be for design only, this would be to get the design finalized and submitted to the North Dakota Department of Transportation. Thank you.

01:33:30,730	Any further questions? What are your wishes? I will move to approve task order 8 with more engineering as presented. Second We have motion by Comm Schoberg, seconded by Comm Hendon. Any discussion? Hearing none roll call, please. Yeah Schober, Mayor Frelich. Yes. Item number 2, consider cost participation and maintenance agreement for Memorial Highway Project jerk.

01:34:03,770	American Commissioners, this is somewhat related to um the funding package that we kind of just went over. It’s a cost partition cost participation and maintenance agreement that accompanies um bidding of a project, uh, this.

01:34:26,170	The as a condition of the Memorial Highway project would be that the city would be taking over routine maintenance of the corridor, um, this agreement outlines some of that more specifically. The city has been anticipating this and has been completing um equipment purchases that might be required for that extra work and has been planning for additional staff to, to, uh, To account for that extra work.

01:34:49,170	Um, we would also be taking maintenance responsibilities of the shared use path on the southwest side of the corridor, and we have uh come to an agreement with Mandan Parks to split that maintenance based on, uh, I think seasonally based on season where the city might be taking care of plowing operations in the parks might be taken care of, mowing operations, something like that.

01:35:11,700	Um, this has been reviewed by public works, uh, the city attorney and by HDR who assisted us with the financial side of the of the agreement, um. Uh, it’s our recommendation to approve the agreement as presented.

01:35:37,870	Um, I would also note that we have 3 suggested motions in the packet, the remaining two would be, uh, to obligate $3 million of ARPA funds to the Memorial Highway Project and to obligate the remaining $600,000 of ARPA funds for water and sewer utility fund capital improvement projects. Um, this, this obligation needs to be completed by the end of this year, so now would be a good time to do it.

01:35:55,330	Um, I’ll stand for any questions if you have any. Did anyone have a question? So, so with our, our, our planning for the future, um. The appropriate department heads are. Already Planning for Future time Allocations for snow removal and all that type of thing. Mayor Comm, yes, they, they are, they are fully aware, fully committed and ready.

01:36:41,530	This doesn’t occur until the road is done. That is correct. And so this would be a 202829. Yeah, that is correct. But we’re currently budgeting for the equipment that’s going to be needed. Um, Mayor Commissioners, yes, that’s correct.

01:37:06,970	And I, I would, I would say that we It’s wise to do that with um, Lead times that can be many years long, so we’re, we’re trying to position ourselves to be ready to take it over when we need to take it over. OK, thank you, Jack. Um Fire Chief Bitz.

01:37:33,030	You were, we were part and parcel to some of this preliminary planning if I remember right, um, could you give the folks in the audience here and watching on TV an idea, uh, since, uh, basically since 9/11. The changes in the wait time. For Fire trucks. Specifically as far as build times, which is why we need to start planning now. To enhance our our equipment inventory and And uh manpower. Mayor Frelich, uh, Comm, uh, thank you for that, Comm Schoberg.

01:38:03,170	Yes, the, uh, just as a quick reference. I think the last fire engine we ordered was in 2017. In the build time on that was approximately 8 months, and I think in 2022 or 2023, we place another order for an engine and the build time is expected to be 48 to 50 months right now,

01:38:20,130	um. So that gives you a little exam a little understanding of that, those lead times on fire apparatus and our heavy equipment isn’t quite to that extreme, but it’s all of 12 months, I guess at this point is a round number, um, so yes, there’s definitely lead times, um.

01:38:39,970	Beyond what we would expect, so the more we can prepare, uh, the better we are and we we, we, we’ve done a couple of purchases in the last couple of years to uh prepare for Memorial Highway as well. Thank you, sir.

01:39:12,030	So What are your wishes? How do you want to handle this one at a time or all three at once? Uh, would it be inappropriate to handle all three of them at once, or? Um Should we I think if you have, if you have them separated out, you should do them one at a time. OK. Thank you. All righty, let’s roll.

01:39:39,170	Number one I moved to enter into the cost participation and maintenance agreement as presented. Second We have motion by Comm Schoberg, seconded by Comm Henon. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call, please. Comm Schoberg. Hi, Braun. Yeah. Mayor Frelich. I moved to obligate 3 million of the ARPA funds for water and sanitary sewer improvements for the Memorial Highway Project.

01:40:16,900	Second We have motion by Comm Hendon, a second by Comm Schoberg. Any further discussion? Hearing none roll call, please, Messrs. Braun. Yes, Schoberg Mayor Frelich, yes. I moved to obligate the remaining 600,000 for water and sewer. Utility fund infrastructure improvements included in the city’s capital improvement program. Second We have a motion by Comm Hacha a second by Comm Schoberg.

01:40:54,900	Any further discussion hearing non roll call, please. Schoberra Mayor Frelich. Yes. Thank you, Jarek. Item number 3, Heling land LLP application for property tax exemption for It prevents to commercial and and residential buildings north. North Dakota Century code 57-02.2. Good evening, Mayor and Comm. Tonight I have before you, uh, application from Helding Land LLP.

01:41:33,830	They’re applying through the 3-year, uh, property tax exemption for an addition and remodeling to the structure at 408 5th Avenue Southeast. The exemption will be applied to the value added due to that addition and the remodeling and I’ve brought the picture of the building here up on the screen for you.

01:41:56,230	The building was built in around 1975. The plan is to add a 705 by 30 addition to the West side of the current, um, RV servicing building and that addition would be a wash bay. The addition would allow for better utilization of the building and allow employees. to wash and service the RVs safely.

01:42:19,230	The existing building will have a new roof, metal siding, windows, and larger overhead doors as we know these RVs have gotten much larger. Um, the phase two of the plan would be to some, do some interior remodel to the bathrooms and the office area, and that would start in 2025. So if you would have any questions for me, I would be happy to answer those.

01:42:40,570	If not, I would approve for, uh, ask for your approval. I will move to approve the application for property tax exemption for improvements to commercial and residential buildings, North Dakota Century Code. 57 02.2 located at 408 5th Avenue, Southeast. Second We have motion by Comm Schoberg, a second by Comm Brown.

01:43:17,570	Any further discussion? Hearing none roll call, please. Yes. Schoberg Mayor Frelich. Yes. Go on to Agenda item K Number one, consider resolution of governing body for state revolving fund loan applications, Jarek.

01:43:49,000	Mayor Commissioners, um, what we have here is a uh resolution in resolutioning of governing body that is a requirement for SRF loans, and these would be SRF loans related to the Memorial Highway project, um, administrator Neubauer referred to this program earlier. This is the low interest rate, the 2% money that we are anticipating at the very least the water and sewer portions to be eligible for and potentially um after recent conversations with SRF staff.

01:44:10,830	Um, potentially the roadway as well, um, so that what this resolution would do would authorize city staff to apply for these loans as well as authorized city staff to, um, furnish information that the city may have required for the loan applications, um. We’d recommend approval as presented, um, I’d be happy to answer any questions.

01:44:30,500	Greg might be more suited to answer some questions too. I, I, I retired from a business, uh, Johnson’s wrecking, and, and we dealt with daily commodities or things change sometimes 3 or 4 times a day, uh, definitely overnight, numerous times, uh, Greg, would that be similar with the loan interest rates, would they change? So we would want.

01:44:55,630	Our, our folks to be able to jump on this opportunity at 1st, 1st light, so to speak. Uh, Mayor Freeli, Comm Schoberg, um. Of the 2% has been through the state revolving fund has been in effect for several years now. I don’t anticipate that.

01:45:26,100	to change by the time that the city actually uh finances the project, so if, if the street And water and sewer can um be a proof of the SRF loan, which we anticipate we, we are planning on a 2% interest rate, um, if there’s a portion of the project that is not eligible for SRF loan financing at 2%, then we would be looking at, um, the, the bond market, which those rates would fluctuate,

01:45:48,530	and we would have no idea how to project those interest rates uh 2 or 3 years in advance. So if we would just say as a as a novice to your world, uh, go with this 2%. application or sign up for it or whatever you guys do.

01:46:07,770	Is there a sunset on that? Um I’m not aware of a sunset, but the, but the application would be submitted, um, um, immediately after the approval of this resolution. Awesome, thank you. Any further questions? Entertain emotion. I moved to approve the present resolution related to SRF loan applications. Second, We have motion by Comm Braun, a second by Comm Henon.

01:46:42,670	Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call please, Commission Schoberg, Heins Bra Mayor Frelich. Yes. Item number 22 consideration of ordinance 1455 for Mandan Industrial Park 14th edition. Andrew Frelian Commissioners.

01:47:15,570	Excuse me, ordinance for 1455 was presented at the previous City Commission meeting for a first consideration, it would rezone the man and Industrial Park Fourth property, Pepsi, uh, to be in the MA district in its entirety after the lot combination takes place, made no changes, received no comments and the recommendation is to approve the second consideration.

01:47:37,500	Do you have any questions for me? Any questions for Andrew? Can I get a motion, please? I’ll move to prove the 2nd and final consideration of ordinance. 1455 for the Mandan Industrial Park 14th edition. Second, We have motioned by Comm Schoberg, a second by Comm Braun. Any further discussion? Hearing none roll call please Braun. Yes, Schober. Yes. Has Frelich. Yes. Item number 32 consideration of ordinance 1456 related to the exclusion in de-annexation of 1.5.

01:48:13,900	Acres of land related to the I wear subdivision. Mayor Frelich and Commissioners, uh, as you stated this, uh, item was introduced at our previous city commission meeting for its first consideration, it would break off a portion of a city-owned property, uh, related to the Beer subdivision, uh, that it’s going through right now.

01:48:37,770	And we’ve made no changes, received no comments from its first introduction and our recommendation is to approve the second consideration of ordinance 1456. Are there any questions related to this item? Any questions for Andrew? Not not entertain emotion. I moved to approve the 2nd and final consideration of ordinance number 1456 for Beer. Second. We have a motion by Comm Hanon a second by Comm Braun.

01:49:04,370	Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call, please. Monsieur Schoberg. Hi Sean Braunn Mayor Frelich. Yes. Item number 5. We’ve already dealt with 4. Correct Yes, my number 5,, 1st consideration of title estates annexation ordinance 1457. just for housekeeping purposes. We need a motion related to the first consideration of the annexation ordinance.

01:49:35,970	We did get one for the minor plat. Uh, this is related to the Kendall’s edition in the Kyle area where we’re annexing the property. Um, I gave you a good overview in public hearings. Do you have any questions for me? Otherwise, I’m just looking for a Motion to approve the first consideration of ordinance 1457.

01:49:56,700	I moved to approve the first consideration of ordinance 1457. The motion by Comm Brown is seconded by Comm Schoberg. Any further discussion, hearing none, roll call, please. Yes Yes Yes. Schoberg, Mayor Frelich, yes. Any other business? Seeing none the future dates. For the commission meeting November 19, 2024 at 5:30. December 3, 2024 at 5:30.

01:50:33,100	And December 17, 2024 at 5:30. With that A motion to adjourn, please. So move Second Second, we have motion in a second to adjourned. We are