00:00:07,300 Alright, is 8 o’clock. Good morning, everybody. Go ahead and call the early C and Water Resource District. September board meeting to order. When do you take roll call vote or roll call, please. Andrew Smith, I’m here. Re. Manager Jones here. Man Beer. Calanber here we do have a quorum. We will continue. 00:00:35,630 Moving on to item 2 this morning, the approval of last month’s meeting minutes. I would move to approve, Mr. Chair. OK, motion to approve last month’s meeting in that by manager Jones and a second by manager Smith. Anybody else else have any discussion or thoughts this morning on the minutes? If not, all those in favor say aye. Motion passes. 00:00:59,570 Minutes are approved. Moving on to the agenda this morning. Any additions? Some changes to the agenda. Not hearing any. So Move to approve the agenda as presented. He got motion by Manna Reap second by manager Jones to approve the agenda as presented. All those in favor say aye. Motion passes Agenda is approved. 00:01:35,430 Comments from members of the public, not seeing any this morning. We can then move on to McDowell Dam. This morning, Randy’s not here, so Michael, I don’t know if you want to come and walk us through some of the items on McDonald Dan this morning. Yeah, as far as McDowell Dam, uh, we do have the one appraisal. 00:01:56,330 That is in process. Um, I talked to Wade Buckmeyer. He’ll be finishing that up shortly. Um, Randy was going to be visiting with the other individual and sounds like there was some family things going on, so he didn’t have any time to. 00:02:14,430 Converse, so he was going to visit with him after that, and I have not talked to him as to whether he had that additional conversation so. That’s kind of where that stands. Um, As far as the bank stabilization, um, we haven’t done anything more on that. Kind of a fall project and it’s not an immediate scenario, so you just kind of do that when it comes up. 00:02:34,170 Um, Emergency action plan update. We did look at all the phones and contact numbers, um, that’s Um, basically there were no changes. Um, emergency manager Sanger asked for a, um, tabletop exercise the last time one was done was 2018. They’re supposed to be done every 3 years. 00:02:57,230 So we’ll work with, uh, Manager of vinegar and see if that’s something you get scheduled between the two parties, um. And then I’m not sure what the property ownership item was on there. Yeah, I’m not sure what that one was OK. It’s Michael. Dave. Any updates regarding Galan this morning, OK. These. Oh, no, no worries. 00:03:23,830 You mean you have orange cones too? All pilot cars. OK. I assume some of the cross country events are getting lined up we got the big one this weekend weekend, OK. Oh, good, good. We should be nice. Yeah. Good. OK. No questions on McDonald Dan this morning. We can move on to financial reports. Mr. 00:03:49,000 Chair, board members on pages 7 and 8 is the balance sheet and I’ll just go through some of the details as I always do. We started the month with the balance and checking on the amount of $844,541.23. We paid bills in the amount of $69,890.60. We had income in the amount of $114,198.52. 00:04:14,570 Um, a large chunk of that was reimbursements from the state of North Dakota for two projects, one being 100,000 for the Hogue Island project, which was the limit of the directors of the Department of Resources. Um, her authority, they’ll need approval from the full board. supply the rest and then 6600 for the Apple Creek uh intake. Project or McDonald a *** refreshing big project so. 00:04:40,730 Uh, we did have, uh, still collecting real estate tax, about 17 $1800 in there. Um, state aid slightly over 4000. did collect some special assessments on a couple of different projects and a small amount of interest. So ending balance of $888,849.15 in checking. 00:05:05,230 Um, reserve fund balance remains the same as its previous months and slightly over 700,000. And so we have um a 1.58 million in checking and savings. We do have the, the CDs and the amount of amounts of slightly over 2.3 million. 00:05:26,700 Um, we have some of those coming up due there in the next, I’ll have a, I’ll have a, I’ll contact them uh before the next meeting. I think it’s October 12th, so it’s our next meetings right before that deadline, so we’ll have some recommendations or discussion items on the October meeting. OK, thanks, Dennis. Um, So with that I would move for approval of the balance sheet as presented in the packing. 00:05:51,230 Yeah, the motion by Man Reap and a second by Manger Jones to approve this month’s balance sheet. When you take roll call vote, please. Smith, yes. Yes. Manager Jones. Yes. Chair Leberger, motion passes. Balance sheet is accepted. Similarly, Mr. Chair, board members on pages 9 and 10, the balance or profit and loss sheets for year to date and then Um versus budget. 00:06:19,500 Um, are Actual versus budget are shown on pages 9 and 10. Um, I’ve gone through those, they appear to be in order. I’d move for approval as presented. A motion by Mar Ree second by manager Smith to prove this month’s profit and loss statement. Wey take roll call vote, please. Smith, yes. Yes. Andrews. 00:06:43,700 I’m a lot of. Yes, motion passes. Profit losses accepted. Any, uh, budget updates this morning? No no Jerry or Dennis, if he. Getting closer to finalizing that. Uh, excuse me, Mr. Chair, I have not heard anything at all about the water resource budget, so I assume everything’s fine. 00:07:04,500 We’re going right on through, um, no rumors or. We’re gonna lower county taxes. County portion, write it down. Thank you, Mr. Woodcox. When, when is, when is that finally adopted? What’s the, the next meeting, which is Monday the 17th, I think next Monday, 16th. OK, thanks. OK. Thank you, Comm.. Didn’t anything else on financial reports? I do not. 00:07:30,670 OK, thank you. Yeah, we can move on to item 7 drainage permits, complaints, and issues. We do have the grass lake. Memo in the packet. So like an update on that. It was actually emailed out, yeah, OK, um, very simply, I do have a, I think I have a copy of it if somebody wanted an actual printout, um. 00:07:52,900 Long story short, we went through the chronological history of the past complaints, the 1997 complaint. Um, not much out there, but it’s, it’s recorded and noted that it existed, there was a 2002 complaint, uh, that was filed with the state water commission that was referred back to the Water Resour district, which was then referred to NRCS. 00:08:13,700 And I did not check with NRCS because after we got done with the light air comparison, the 2015 Lighter, um, and one thing I didn’t put in the memorandum is from the, the engineering side who understand lighter. There’s a sensitivity attached to it plus or minus 6 inches, but we were using the actual point shots. 00:08:35,530 Which there’s a lesser tolerance in those, and when we compared those and you look at what was done, um, the clean out out there was, it, it was just a clean out. 00:08:50,630 It wasn’t a deepening and widening it’s less than 6 inches or plus or minus 6 inches so from that perspective we looked at it that no drainage permits required. We did note that the issues of the meandered lake, that the meander Lake has not been apportioned to the, you know, surrounding landowners, uh, because it’s all one lot under the, under the county authority or county. Lot parcel, so there’s no ownership designated even though the riparian landowners own it. 00:09:10,400 It appears as though the work that was done for the cleanout was done within either township right away or on a um. A non-party to the Complaint Which is interesting. So we don’t know whether that was a trespass or whether there was an agreement or anything else, and quite honestly from this board’s jurisdiction, it really doesn’t matter. 00:09:29,000 The issue is, it’s just a clean out and our recommendation with all the documentation that goes with it is just to dismiss the complaint. I did not prepare the dismissal letter, and this was still in draft. So if you so choose today to make that action, I will prepare the The dismissal letter to be sent? Mr. 00:09:46,030 Chair, I would move that we dismiss the. OK, pending if if anybody has any comments after reviewing the memo or anything or any changes, we can certainly make those too, but. OK, a motion by Man Jones for the dismissal letter. I’ll second 2nd by Manager Smith. All those in favor say aye. 00:10:09,570 The motion passes. Mr. Chair, I do have a question for Michael, uh, so. Um Did you, did you leave a control Are we establishing an elevation by which we would not As Right, as a formal elevation we did not, but the data is there to where you know that if they’ve done something deeper than what’s there today, we 00:10:38,370 would identify that we actually got two control points out there. Uh, so if one disappears, we’ve got another one we do have the elevations along the channel, um, if there’s a significant deepening of that, we would know it. 00:11:00,230 What we did not establish a specific elevation for, for the purposes of this that the state is Not That’s a good question. I mean the state took themselves out of the equation, right? So yeah, I mean, I think we’d be the next person up. I mean, The word responsibility, I mean, we, we are the authority, I would say, as opposed to responsibility. 00:11:18,430 So at this point we’d still require a landowner to complain and bring that to our board. So if somebody went and did some work and in terms of a meander elevation. No, we don’t have to do that, no. Um, it would be interesting though, Michael, based on the data, if there was what you would consider to be kind of the. 00:11:37,100 You know, low elevation, you know, as far as what that drainage elevation might be it’s relatively flat through there uh from a grade perspective, but I mean we can take the data we have in the cross section to come up with an elevation and say that, you know, it appears that the current overflow elevation based on the cleanout is this and put an elevation, we can 00:11:53,630 certainly add that to the memo. I think that’d be good just for future reference point is a we can certainly Everybody’s still good with that. the motion. 00:12:12,900 OK, eliminate the need to interpret the cross sections at some point in the future, if you can find them, you know, and like I said, I think we have sufficient data to make that decision or make that recommendation on your path. So very good. OK. All right. Motion passed. We will send out the dismissal letter then. Thank you. Good question, Roger. Uh, any updates regarding the Randy Cook. I, I know I haven’t, I haven’t talked to Casey. Casey’s Casey’s Casey’s relative to costs. 00:12:34,400 We did take a look at the watershed. Um, it’s a significant increase in volume on all the events going there. Uh, there is still even with the diversion system in place, there’s a significant increase in the um two-year event comparatively speaking, between the undeveloped and the developed condition, uh, though it comes down Partially to the 00:12:56,630 number of acre feet that are generated and the ability to remove it. Um, we didn’t get into the removal side of the equation because the pipe is going to be what it’s gonna be, uh, so the memorandum that you’ll see next month will just outline those increases and basically size that system should that system go in. 00:13:14,430 uh, we’ll talk briefly in the memorandum relative to the options, obviously the landowner can pay for it. The county could pay for it. The option of assessment district probably is not Simply because of the the votes that would come from that so um we’ll outline those scenarios just to open the door for additional conversation. OK. All right. 00:13:35,230 Any questions? OK, thanks, Michael. OK, we can move on to uh nothing as far as drainage from complaints that are being closed there than the one we just discussed, so we can move out of there and move into item 9 projects this morning. 00:13:54,830 Uh, Syby Island, I assume Michael Nore updates this book continue to close it out. Yeah, we’re still from background it hasn’t been on the priority to close out the. The pieces we have had some conversations with some people and you know, if you want to talk about that, Dennis, briefly, we just discuss that in general at least and so there is just one of the 00:14:10,900 landowners, you know, is as a result of the outcome of this still plan to replat some of the parcels down there and, and we as a board did a necessity, did some survey work to inform that process. 00:14:32,230 Um, it’s not a signed plat yet, but the survey data is there and so the request From the individual was You know, is that data available as public domain and I guess that’s the discussion point and and we can. You know, certainly clarify it for for Michael and Houston’s engineer, Houston engineering position. If we if we care to. 00:14:55,700 So my initial thought is it’s, you know, it’s, it’s work uh performed for and paid for by a public entity and thus becomes public domain unless there’s, you know. Legitimate restrictions on it. Um, and so in my mind that can be shared. 00:15:15,330 Is that useful to the landowner? I mean, that’s up to them to decide they could um uh they could take, they could have Houston Engineering take that existing data and just transfer it to a plat and pay Houston Engineering for other services from that, which I don’t see as an issue from our board’s perspective, so that’s, that’s the thought process. 00:15:33,170 So, Michael, we did the survey out there, did, did you guys locate property pins and corners, in order to create the easement through that parcel, we did actually get the, the pins and locate the, the corners. So it, it kind of comes down to this to, you know, uh, Dennis’s point, it’s, it’s public information you created, you paid for it, um, a. If you want to call it a digital or PDF version has already been shared. 00:15:50,800 So that’s there, but if they want to take it to the lat stage in order to do that, there’s two things they would need. One is the electronic file, but yet the electronic file was created by our surveyor who has to be the one to sign off on that electronic file. 00:16:05,830 If in fact they want to use that, they’re going to get another surveyor to go out and do the same thing. So the context of this is in apologize that I haven’t gotten back to her yet on the, on the discussion is that if she wants. 00:16:23,400 us to do that, we could take that information which is public domain that was discussed and bring it to the standpoint of actually preparing the plat, which is what they’re planning on doing, but we would not do that without your authorization or permission to do that because it’s your information from a from a technical standpoint. So yeah, so Dave, you’ve got any. Input on this regarding kind of the legal. 00:16:44,630 Yeah, I think that the first issue is it, is it public record and in my view it is. Um, if there were drafts of uh work product that eventually created the documents. 00:17:03,870 That’s sort of another question, but I think everything is in the public domain that was disclosed and was used by the board and I think when the project ends it ends like, you know, um, uh, putting in steaks, for example, well, yes, it is, and in a sense, the landowner may benefit from that. 00:17:19,870 Um, at the same time, it was part of the project and the and the board did everything it needed to do to further that project and whatever it is, it is, you know, when you, when you leave a project and the voters have declined that. So I think as a matter of public record it’s it’s certainly discoverable. It’s certainly available, uh, and I understand from my most of this has already been a matter of public record. 00:17:39,700 It’s the narrower issue, correct me if I’m wrong, Mike, but it’s whether or not, um, any landowner wants to have Houston finish up what was half done. And that’s another question and that I think that’s what the board is, is discussing right now. And one of the things, if you recall in the letters from the district, um, to this individual. There was a conversation that, um. 00:18:02,130 That information as part of the negotiations for the easement that, you know, Plot could be completed. And use But that negotiations halted, so. That doesn’t really transfer. 00:18:21,830 In other words, this board’s not going to complete that document on their behalf because that part of the negotiation is not there, so they can complete the document if this board or we can complete the document for them as long as this board’s um Doesn’t have a conflict or doesn’t believe there’s a conflict in us doing that. I certainly don’t see any conflict from our board’s perspective. OK, I don’t either. Anybody else? OK. 00:18:40,970 I think there’s consensus then that can work with her to figure out I’ll I’ll get a hold of her this week and have that conversation. Thank you. Thanks, Michael. Uh, moving on to Hogue Island this morning. Um, I’m not sure there’s any updates besides the the the bond information is getting put together, right? Correct. 00:18:59,700 OK, just one question and just for record we have we did get the $100,000 reimbursement from the state. What’s the remainder balance, remaining balance that we’re expecting from them. I think it’s in the 120, or excuse me, 200 to 30,000. And so that is that on the agenda for October I have not checked. 00:19:15,700 I will have to go back now that they’ve paid the reimbursement. I’ll have to go back in and check and see if it’s on the agenda. OK, moving on to item C there, the Burn Creek Floodway update this morning. Anything this morning, Kathleen? Unfortunately there’s quite a bit. OK, good. 00:19:37,170 Um, at our last meeting I gave David some contracts for Travi Johnson and the Cowboys. So that we get uh Burn Creek regularly scheduled for maintenance. And um David is reviewing the contracts there’s a little hiccup with liability insurance. But I would imagine by next month we’ll have a contract that we can Travis. Currently, um, the convoys did the spring. Um, it took well. 00:20:06,500 However, we cut the germ. And now we have a burn full of thistle. And I’m of the impression, and correct me if I’m wrong. But you spray thistle when it’s 2 to 3 inches high. Uh, to get a decent kill. So My recommendation to the board is that we put this on. For April, May. 00:20:34,130 And spray that burn. All the way through, which is about, it’s just short of a mile. Um, We’re looking at probably right around $5000. I haven’t gotten any. quote from them. Until The board approved for you and everything. Project So I would ask for discussion. On what you wanna do with a very weedy firm. 00:21:07,470 So we approved last month was for this current spring this fall, which they completed in the bank. Then you’re saying next spring, April, May, we do another spring. Including the bird, OK, is there any grass seed? Very little. Very nice. So it needs seated as well. 00:21:33,000 Questionable Um, I’m watching what they did spray because it was more grass on the down side. And I was up there on Saturday. And I see a little grasses popping back up. So I at this time, Roger, I can’t give you a firm answer. Yeah, killed the thistle, maybe the grass comes back. But it is uh. Quite a serious mess. 00:21:57,570 So I know last month we talked about a kind of an ongoing contract with cowboys to do several things, several items, and work that into a contract where we don’t have to keep coming back and doing these we kind of have a menu list of, you know, some items and then some estimates on what that would cost and then you could kind of update 00:22:12,430 us as as they’re doing things that get. Worked out he’s still working on that that contract by chance we’re still working on that a little bit. OK, so at that point, are they requiring us today to move forward with this additional spray next spring, or can we kind of wait to see how this contract is 00:22:30,630 working for the contract, um, because the contract is basically the downslope into the creek. This would be a separate issue. And You know it could cost 5000, it could cost 7500 at this point, knowing the chemical market. It’s kind of hard to even give you an estimate. 00:22:55,800 Um, but I like to keep the two items very separated. So that we know the downside needs to be sprayed annually. Does the verm need to be sprayed annually? I don’t believe so. I think if we go in there with a good kill. A good chemical We’re probably good for. A number of years. OK. And unless the farmer’s heart, he. 00:23:22,270 has gone along his side of the fence line and done a very nice spray. So at this point, the only action we need to is approve the payment for this fall’s spring, which you have, you got, you received an invoice came in a little bit higher. I have the invoice. It came in at 46 85 48. 00:23:41,630 And I just received this on Monday. So we could probably just add that to next month’s bills that might be the appropriate, yeah, I don’t you want to add it to this month? I mean, I don’t see any if there’s nothing wrong with it. 00:23:54,870 I don’t see any reason not to add it to this month’s bills. I mean. Yeah They, they did an excellent job, they really did. Excuse me, manager Jones, can you forward me the email? Did you get If I still have it, Wendy. Because I think that email I could pay it. Electronically, even better. Let me Let me do a little check in here. 00:24:23,700 And then just, yeah, for future reference you could just have them give them Wendy’s email so they double that. OK, you got it. I’ll, I’ll forward it to you. OK. 00:24:51,600 All right, uh, any other questions regarding that at this point with the spraying? And I know one time we talked about could they also spray for cat tails, and they were gonna look into that too and kind of get some pricing and the channel looking at that they haven’t made it firm decision. The only other item I have is in your packet at the very front of the packet. Is the layout for the um Signs that would go up. 00:25:12,000 And we’re talking 4020. 10 Uh, and there’d be a sign in each the the east end and the west end. And I’ve already talked to Travis about uh Assisting me and getting these signs put on the beach. I would post up there. And in bad shape. They could probably leave on the other hand, they do stop. 00:25:38,030 Four wheelers So That would be something the board could. So I would ask for approval to go ahead and uh. Have the aluminum signs. Ma and we should have them up by the end of the month. Yeah Is this also is this in the billing packet? No, already for this month. OK. 00:26:04,770 Es, not in the bills, not in the pills, but the signs are in the back of. OK, I’ll forward the bill to you Wendy the bill will go in next month because that’s fine Mr. 00:26:24,570 Chair, Kathleen, just real quickly, have you talked to Travis about the mountain because I know the sign company will make the signs based on how they’re going to be mounted. Oh, I’ve already talked to the same company. OK, as long as that’s taken care of because we had an issue last time with, OK, now all of a sudden we have to drill these things in order to put holes in to put the mounting on. 00:26:36,670 So as long as that’s taken care of, I just want to touch base because it’s like it’s a gap we’ve been there before. Well, I know, but Travis and I had that discussion before that, you know, all of a sudden we have signs and we have to do extra work to mount them, so thanks. 00:26:52,600 The last item regarding Bird Creek. And I believe I brought this up last month. We need for future references for other board members. Some kind of a schedule, so this does not get neglected as badly as it has been in the last 3 years. 00:27:11,900 And what action the board wants to take on that is entirely up to you. Um Might be open for discussion in October. Yeah, I’m, I’m, I’m thinking maybe if if Man Jones and Michael, if you two want to get together and I’m not. Envisioning a, you know, complicated here’s the scenario we have Mr. Chair and Comm. Jones, we have the ONM manual. It’s already there. There’s already a checklist. 00:27:37,030 The thing is we need to go back and look at that and probably put some dates or something into that process to where somebody can bring it out and say here’s what we’re doing for. You know, this year. So it’s part of the scheduling process that you know, the contracts to get somebody to do that. 00:27:54,170 And even out of that, if there was a one page kind of executive summary something quick and easy that you could give to a new board member or somebody that would get a new portfolio that here’s kind of. So they don’t have to go read the entire writing manual, manual. OK. That’s good in here. 00:28:12,770 Um, let’s go back to the, I wanna make sure that the there was consensus on the signs and moving forward with that. OK. Good game, yeah, yeah for consensus, we’ll move forward those. OK. Apple Creek is worse. Michael and Mary Singer and the highway department. Oh, so you’re moving on, well, let’s let’s first go through. 00:28:35,600 I I don’t think we have anything with Missouri, so you’re moving off of Burn Creek floodway. OK. And then we have Missouri River Correctional Center. Um, you know, let me give you a full update on that, Mr. Chair and managers, um, Nick Cullen in her office went out with the staff, if you will, at Missouri River Correctional Center. 00:28:54,900 There were 10 folks that joined him on the tour. Uh, he went through all of the uh O&M activities, checking the gates opening and closing the gates, any number of things, um, they were very interested. 00:29:13,070 There’s new staff is basically where it comes down to, and they say, well, what do we have out here? areas that they’re mowing, which is very nice. They’ve got an area where they’re not driving on the levee, but then they’ve got another area that kind of goes through a gate structure where they are driving on the levees, so there was discussion of, you know, the maintenance and care of those areas, um, all of the 00:29:30,730 gates function. There was some question that they were a little sticky because obviously they haven’t been operated in a while. Uh, one of the gentlemen who’s out there who’s a maintenance person, asked if he could grease them. 00:29:47,330 And the answer was yes, you know, go right ahead, um, take care of that if if you so choose, uh, because they’re maintaining the levee as far as mowing, that’s part of the easement process that’s there, that’s, that’s their obligation. Um, The gates interestingly enough were closed. 00:30:07,700 They’re supposed to remain open, so they were open and left open, um, I remember Travis’ spring noting that they were closed and of course we’re in an ice jam scenario, which is fine. They can close them at that point in time, but they’re supposed to be open because they also take care of internal drainage. So they need to be open. There was one drain tile system that needed to be cleaned, um, Nick is gonna work with the uh gentleman out there to get that taken care of. 00:30:24,100 Uh, so, um, that’s all taking place, uh, another interesting conversation is that I visited with an architect. The state is looking at multiple sites to construct. Um, Additional beds Uh, for that, uh. 00:30:46,030 Population that they have, uh, so that’s one of the sites that’s being looked at, so we talked about the certification of the levy and the need to place the site uh critical infrastructure as you call it because of its purpose and intent, uh, and where to place that based on the base flood elevation. So, um. She would be back in contact with me and we’ll have additional discussions relative to the. 00:31:03,600 Uh, the gate and or the gate operations in the system and I will provide her information for that. Um, obviously they’re looking at multiple sites to go to the legislature for funding of which site selection and maybe there may be someplace else. But so it was a a really good inspection. Everything looks to be fine, minor. Checks and maintenance items, so. 00:31:21,300 Very good. OK, thanks, Michael. Any questions for Michael on that? OK, now we can move on to Apple Creek. Well, actually, Mrs. Rogers. And it’s just, it’s worse. There was a meeting last week, Roger. There was a meeting last week on the September 4th and um. 00:31:47,300 It uh pretty well attended most of the stakeholders were represented. I don’t know of any that. We’re not represented and um. So, and I learned actually quite a bit because I was really kind of unsure where the sloughing was and. How it was related to the existing stabilization. Uh, project that’s been ongoing since 2020, Michael and uh. 00:32:14,130 Um, our engineering is working with uh University of Mary. To stabilize that really that same bank, the upper portion of that bank, um, I’m rehearsing it, you can. And just for the, the fact that we’re may have public uh that is interested in this. So, um, That stabilization project is nearing completion and it addressed. 00:32:43,070 Uh, infrastructure, uh, buildings and cemetery on the University of Mary property. It did not address the area below the work and that is what’s. Uh, sloughing and moving, so, uh, Michael has put together some action items for the various agencies, stakeholders, and um, Uh Our action item uh on this board’s action item is to work with the uh Murley County Emergency Management Agency to 00:33:13,870 Um, At least enter into a study that would be done by Houston Engineering, uh, Tell me whether we need to make a motion on that or or uh. And so that the particular study will look at uh. 00:33:42,670 The consequences of A failure identify points of possible failures and any failures that would Result in the damming of Apple Creek and. Consequently flooding over that road and into residential areas. Uh, it, uh, has pointed out, uh, right now that Michael believes that the initial impact area is larger than we first thought it might be. 00:34:11,530 So, uh, I would make a motion that we approve the funds to uh Study the effects of a potential failure uh caused by the sloughing into Apple Creek. To be an estimate by chance. Mr. Chair, at this point we do not have an estimate. We would put one together, um, the scenario is kind of twofold. Uh, number one, from your initial action, we’d be working with Mary to create the. 00:34:33,530 Emergency action plan, which isn’t, you know, not a lot, but the study itself is to evaluate that lower slope. Um, there’s two aspects to that from a funding perspective, uh, Justin Messer was there from DES. He said there’s HMG fee. GP funds potentially available which is 75% federal, 10% state, and 15% local. 00:34:58,070 Um, now, where the local share comes from remains to be determined or what the total cost of this, uh, study will be, I guess if I were to caveat. Um, manager Smith’s motion is to put together what that study is going to come back and look at the actual application for funding. So that would come at your next month’s meeting. 00:35:15,700 Now, as a, as a caveat to that from a funding perspective, um. And these are Two separate items that um. Uh, Department of Water Resources was there and noted that there’s trees in the water. And said there is cost share of 50% or I think it’s 45% for snagging and clearing. 00:35:39,030 Uh, the other 65% has to come from somewhere. Uh, the water resource district and their authorities has the ability to do snagging and clearing projects whether or not you want to step into that realm in this case is an open door. The other aspect of it is, is once the study is done. 00:35:54,470 The study may define that there is a large potential flood area. And then there’s two sources of funding. One is a FEMA grant. Or through a 45% cost share through the Department of Water Resources, but obviously then there’s assessment district goes with that. 00:36:14,470 So there are funding sources being talked about, so pardon the, the short squirrel here, but I think what it goes down to now is to put together the study component of what that would look like to evaluate that lower slope in a potential application to Uh, DES for an HMGP grant. So if, if I understand correctly, then the 85% covered by state and uh. 00:36:39,470 Federal Is that for this initial study or is that for the longer term. That’s it’s the longer-term study, the emergency action plan isn’t going to take an awful lot to put together. Uh, like I said, Roger pointed out, we’ve already identified the impact area. Uh, which is Larger than we initially anticipated, but we can put together that piece relatively quickly with uh. With the emergency manager. Mr. 00:37:02,430 Chair, what’s the, what’s the, uh, timeline urgency of that long term study because I’m thinking of HMGP grant is a year-long process at best and Justin said that he has money currently available. 00:37:22,770 He does have a like a slush fund, but a fund that he can dedicate as he, as they determine that was his conversation. He said I could work on that right now because of the available funding. OK. But obviously the longer HMGP where you’re trying to implement a project like the University of Mary’s doing, yeah, that’s a year longer or whatever, so it becomes the um process of where you go once the, once your study is 00:37:40,270 completed, can you wait or do you, so just to clarify, there, there would be ample federal funds for this this full study, the study itself. As far as my understanding, yes, it depends upon the dollar amounts we had, you know, we had talked dollar amounts with Justin yet either a study to look at the bank 00:37:57,300 itself or It more hydraulic and the hydraulic part of it. Um, the hydraulic piece of it to define the, the impact area. That’s relatively straightforward. We’ve already got most of that. 00:38:14,130 In line it’s mostly to define that slope and say is it still moving and what do you do to arrest it and make it stay there. Yeah, so To clarify the short term is uh to study. It impacts failure points. And uh finish the action plan, so. gets called if uh there is uh Failure in the sense that sloughs down Apple cream comes out of its bank and goes from there. The residential area. 00:38:44,730 That’s the study that uh we’re proposing that we fund uh Houston to complete and then a bigger study is the longer term uh solution to the problem and um and we really don’t know what the problem is until we. 00:39:06,230 Do the first study OK, so I, I’m kind of hearing three parts and so we got one part is the EAP, right? Second would be the more the hydraulic analysis completing that getting that information to Mary so we can, you know, send that out to the public so that people kind of understand and I assume, Michael, you’re looking at. 00:39:24,330 Uh, because there’s another slough or slide down upstream, right, we’ve already taken a look at the northern slide area and the southern slide area and from an impact standpoint, the southern one’s more, that’s what I was gonna ask. Damaging, so we’re not going to look at both. OK, that if you had determined which one is we’ve already determined the lower ones has a greater impact. All right. 00:39:39,530 And that one you said you’ve already kind of got a good start on this point. Yeah, the scenario is, Mr. Chair, when we’re looking at this, and of course, you know, from a real technical perspective, um. From the emergency action plan. Side of the equation. 00:39:59,100 Um, we wanted to keep our costs under control, so we said let’s find the impact area. We’re not doing elevations. We would do the actual elevation analysis when we get to the standpoint of the larger study because then it shows the impact area and if you go for funding you’re going to have to have benefit cost ratios and other stuff. 00:40:14,470 Don’t want to go there until so that would be part of the, the second phase if you want to call it that. Right now we’re just defining the impact area and the notification zone who gets phone calls. OK. So in the motion then, Roger, you’re. 00:40:36,370 Since we’re approving Houston move forward, the EAP and maybe this initial hydraulic study and then that third study, Michael is gonna do some analysis on cost share potential opportunities as well as kind of what that might take and and come back to us. Next meeting with some numbers and some and Mr. 00:40:51,870 Chair, I would suspect since we had really good attendance and those that were there, we had everybody in Corps of Engineers, everybody was there, so uh it was a really good technical discussion as well as, um, organizational, so I think when that grant application, that grant application should go back to that group because obviously there needs to be a discussion of the participants in the grant. Even though it’s only 15% local. 00:41:10,130 There needs to be some discussion as to where those funds come from amongst the stakeholders the consensus is from the engineers that Should that lower portion fail. It does not put the, the upper portion in Jeopardy. Correct, yeah. Correct. 00:41:38,800 So question is is that lower part moving? Casey’s been sharing all these photos with me and I, I, in my mind, I’ve seen movement, but is it or not? Yes. And what’s uh how much has it moved since it first started? Do we know roughly we didn’t really get into the conversation. We know that it’s moving. It’s a lateral movement. It’s not a rotation. 00:42:00,870 It’s basically it’s just sliding over, um, part of the discussion was that, um, it’s basically a block failure. In other words, pieces are basically sloughing off. It’s kind of like falling into the Missouri River, if you will, and slum block. So from that perspective, that’s, it’s moved over. Well, it closed the creek about in half. And now that material is eroding away. 00:42:20,000 You know, the creeks washing it away, so then it’s just gonna continue to move and fall in. Um So we don’t not have a A motion, but yeah, if you take a look at the aerial photos, it’s definitely been moving. I drove out there the other day and I, I saw water coming out of the bank up above, which is. 00:42:38,130 Generally not good, right? They do have a plan as part of their overall let me give a little bit of history from a chronology perspective. They put in their piles and they did all their dirt work last year. 00:42:57,330 And then they stopped and measured the consolidation relative to the piles and then they continued to put material upstream from the piles because that was their shaping of the hill, and that’s when they consolidation went from a small amount to a large amount. And they said, whoa, wait a minute, we need to stop and see where this is going, which is kind of where they’re at now. 00:43:10,270 Um, they do plan to put in as part of their project, the upper drains to capture that water and carry it down the slope, and they are looking at doing that sometime this fall. But they wanted to make sure that everything was kind of in place and, you know, stable to actually do that. 00:43:26,330 I agree with you, Dennis, that water coming out of the slope goes down and it goes in the fractures and it basically compounds the lower bank. So But they are planning on putting those drains in, so. Um, and just maybe an opinion unsolicited to a certain extent. 00:43:48,600 I heard, you know, um, snagging and clearing, um, still involves economic analysis and going through the proper protocol. I don’t see a lot of benefit there to chase that down in my mind. I honestly I don’t either. So, but it’s there, I, you know, we can’t not document the fact that it was offered by the state to, to do that. OK, we do have a motion by Manager Smith. 00:44:11,070 Does anybody need any clarification on that motion before we? To see if there’s a 2nd and a vote. And we spell out the motion please. Um, as best as I heard, go ahead, Roger. Uh, so I make a motion that we expand the funds necessary to finish the Action plan and uh the initial hydraulic investigation. 00:44:36,670 To determine failure points and consequences of failure. Second And then at the same time next month. Michael’s gonna come with some additional information regarding kind of that next phase, next study. OK. Just uh uh. So hydraulic. Investigation *** too fast for me Yeah, I got it. 00:45:08,000 OK, just a side question discussion and we can figure this out offline too, but just which budget item this will be coming out of, um, and that’s. Oh, we can figure that out as we go. I don’t know if there’s an immediate response, but we’ll figure that out. OK. 00:45:23,270 All right, got a motion by Man Smith and the second by manager Jones. Uh, Wendy you take a roll call vote, please. Andrew Smith, yes. Andrew Jones, Chair Laker motion passes. OK, Roger, you work with Michael and those items then moving forward, OK. Uh, I did notice there, um, it was in the packet or it was an email from Mary regarding, I think it might have an email. 00:45:48,730 I think a public Comment, um, just, just, I did see a news article and there were some landowners that were interviewed and I don’t know if some of these landowners were at that meeting or not, but I do think it’d be good to um it was basically an an internal meeting. 00:46:03,230 It was not an open public meeting. There was no representation from A full border quorum scenario. So it’s just more of a technical background, um, part of the action items, one of the first ones is, um Mary Sanger is the emergency manager put out a press release because obviously there’s been public interest in what’s going on, uh, so she put 00:46:21,330 out a press release that basically said that well you you read it that the um various parties are looking into the situation to try and determine exactly what’s going on and more information to follow. So. 00:46:36,730 Yeah, I don’t think there’s a way that we could maybe contact some of those landowners if they want to come to maybe next month’s meeting or if they um I think part of it comes down to there’s a and I’ll visit with Casey, there’s one landowner downstream that has the trees falling in the water. Um, he’s been concerned. 00:46:53,270 There’s been a couple of other landowners down there that have contacted Mary because uh Sibley Island or Sibley Drive is the only access for them. Um, I think as long as the background information and discussion is ongoing. It’s probably sufficient, um. Again, it becomes kind of a real technical issue and, uh, no offense to landowners but bringing them in. 00:47:16,900 We understand their concerns, understand their opinions, but uh there’s details that have to be looked at and um these meetings are, are best between the. The technical people, so. For us to be able to bring the public in, uh, we need to be able to answer the questions they have number one would be. 00:47:36,630 What happens to my property should this fail or come my direction, so we don’t have those answers yet. But that’s a good point, at some point we need to be able to uh. Uh Share what we learned from the investigation so that people prepared in the the highest risk scenario is should you have a failure in a spring runoff. 00:48:00,100 Or after a, you know that major rain and the, the two are not necessarily connected, potentially connected, but yeah, you might have a higher risk of sloughing during a wet period and. And then of course you got run off on top of that, so that would be the scenario that uh. Mike will be identifying and mapping, OK. One of the things Mr. 00:48:19,400 Chair and Roger that we’re looking at is you’re exactly right, it’s probably gonna happen on a. Um, It’s not going to happen on a 100 year flood period, probably. So what we’re analyzing the impact area right now is just on a 10-year flow. 00:48:36,800 Um, what was a little bit concerning is the standpoint of the overall extent, aerial extent, not necessarily depth, but the aerial extent to what happens on that event. So, and again, to Roger’s point, um, getting into a public meeting, if we don’t have answers, it’s worse than if you come in with some background information. 00:48:53,930 So once we get that information, we can work with Mary and at one point in time does, you know, you bring people in to have a conversation updates. Uh Michael, with that meeting take place yet this year. It sounds to me like we’ve got a lot of work to do. Is that something we scheduled for the spring, maybe? Well, potentially depends upon where things go. 00:49:15,030 Um, I guess part of the discussion is, you know, how stable is that slope. It’s moved. Uh, it’s kind of gradually moving, but if it, it’s now not moving again for a while the, the risk is still there, but it’s not, it becomes less immediate. 00:49:35,030 And correct me if I’m wrong, Michael, but my assumption is that as it does slough into the creek. Flows carry that erosion away, it steepens that bank. Creates the possibility of more fluffy. Yes. Yeah OK, good discussion this morning, appreciate it. Um. Yeah, very dynamic, a lot of moving parts, pieces here, so I appreciate you guys attending that meeting and providing the information and. 00:49:59,770 We’ll see what next month holds, but to that very point that Roger just made, there’s, it’s a finite amount of sloughing that would occur in the future as that that to eroded away because the upper part of that bank is. Theoretically stabilized by the work that the you Mary has done, yes, that’s correct. 00:50:19,500 Yeah, at some point, uh, the river may do our job for us and it’s. You know, stabilized, yeah does it piecemeal and, yeah, right. OK OK, thank you. All right, we can move on to item 10 on the agenda, uh, other old business, um, just looking through the list there. 00:50:41,770 Uh, is there an update this morning regarding the CRS, um, just the standpoint, um, Mitch is providing information. We’re meeting with him later on to have additional discussion, uh, one of the items that’s going to happen is called a calf, basically the FEMA comes in and has a discussion with the locals as far as what their current operations are and what their enforcements are. 00:50:59,930 So that’s in the process of being scheduled. So what’d you call that, Michael, yeah. CAB Yeah. Now Mitch will probably have to help me with the CAB stands community-assisted visit. 00:51:23,470 OK, so in other words, basically it’s a, it’s an evaluation of the current program and what they’re doing and making sure that there’s no ongoing violations and stuff. In other words, in order to get a CRS rating, you need to be compliant and that is basically if you want to call it it’s a compliance evaluation so it’s, it’s ongoing, things are going well, OK, Mitch, anything to add there? Are you good? Morning. Yeah. Good morning. 00:51:44,900 We have a meeting tomorrow with at Houston with Michael and Nick, and we’re probably halfway with gathering the information. I’m gonna bring some historical documents tomorrow to review with them and then we’re gonna set up hopefully we can set up a meeting with Tom Bernie and the FEMA reps to do a C on site visit actually they go over and 00:52:03,070 look at all the documents and then they gathered all and then hopefully by the end of this year we’ll have a uh a rating and we can be a member. of the CRS and start saving some money for Burleigh County residents. Good. That’s the whole purpose, Mr. 00:52:20,800 Chair, can I ask a quick question? Is that a is that a county road or is that a township road, Sly Allen Drive. You know, that’s uh. I’m not sure. It’s a county road, it’s a township road, there is funding available through Lincoln Township, which is the Bertie County. Comm. runs. 00:52:44,000 So that’s a possibility but it sounds like there’s a lot of other funding available too, so yeah, because we’re setting right now, Marcus was using county funds to do the bank stabilization and the right away is owned by the county as platted, so I’m assuming it’s the county road probably. And my assumption. 00:53:05,400 I was hoping it was Lincoln’s problem, too Any questions for Mitch regarding the CRS OK, just a reminder that the I think Mary had shared that she would like all of her invoices processed by the end of the calendar year for a from a cash flow budgetary perspective. That is correct. 00:53:25,300 She also recommended that when Houston Engineering does the invoice that we actually send to one to this board and one to her, so they’re paid independently so there’s not a reimbursement process going on and we can do that. That’s not a problem because the budget tracking uh so far so good, yeah, we’re not. I was gonna invoice this month. 00:53:39,000 And decided we’ve, you know, we’re in the process, we’re not that far along, so. OK, thanks, Mitch. Thank you. All right, moving on to Crystal Lake. Any updates this morning? Um, yeah, I did a very quick update the uh Stutzman County Commissioners approved the feasibility study to look at taking water out of Crystal Lake and basically in essence, it’s probably going to be 00:53:58,870 coming west into the Long Lake Refuge, uh, steering committee will meet tomorrow and have some initial discussions, uh, basically by the first of the year there’ll be an idea of what the alternative is, and at that point in time, um, downstream counties, if you will, Cer County. 00:54:17,130 A County will get a copy of the feasibility study which shows, um, what’s currently being planned and what the issues are. Uh, we’ve had multiple discussions with North Dakota Game and Fish relative to the elevations that are out there, we’ve had P Wildlife service because there’s a lot of easements and wildlife refuges out there. 00:54:36,970 We’ve looked a little bit on the water quality, um, going into Long Lake, which is better than what’s currently in Long Lake, which is nice, but uh so there’s a lot of ongoing background information and. Technically we haven’t started yet, so, but we’ll keep you updated as the thing progresses. OK, thanks. All right, uh, moving on to the Burleigh County. 00:54:56,200 I don’t think there’s any. Updates on the annual assessments of the ONM agreements, and the only one, Mr. Chair, between now and your next meeting we will have the Burnt Creek update. I do not see, and I’ll take a look at the um. 00:55:15,430 Current reserve dollars that I think they’re in the packet relative to the other projects, I don’t see a need for any other assessments because I believe last year you did a special assessments to Basically bring those funds back to current, so Burt Creek is the only one that we’ll be going through. the standard process too. OK, that assessment. 00:55:37,300 Are they looking at one time we were talking about hiring Travis to complete these annual inspections. Well, we’ve we’ve run into a little snag about the insurance. So as soon as that gets resolved. I would I think that would be a good idea. Yeah, no, I, I would, I would concur with that, Mr. Chair. Um, he knows the projects better than anybody. 00:55:56,830 Uh, one of the ones that Nick and I were talking about is um of course the MRCC folks are there. Um, there are certain things that they potentially could do as well, but um we’ll we’ll deal with, you know, Travis maybe to start with and put things in perspective. 00:56:17,700 So, remind me, I guess what kind of insurance are are we gonna require Travis to have? Yeah, so OK. Mr. Chair, I, I want to inform the board too that I did talk to Travis about this insurance matter and there were some other things that he was looking at as an independent contractor. We need to know the entity which we would be hiring. 00:56:39,000 Uh, is it going to be Travis individually? Is it going to be a company name that he names and we also talked about this idea of the board probably wanting some sort of general liability and umbrella coverage. 00:57:01,100 Um, there are some standard policies out there as the board knows, but I think some assurance that there is insurance, I think even though it’s a smaller contract, it might be good to build that in. And so Travis is gonna take it from there, make his calls and then figure out what kind of entity he wants and anyway, some of the mechanics were working on that, OK, uh, manager Jones has already articulated that the duties 00:57:20,670 that are necessary for Travis to fulfill that will. in the contract and something else manager Jones had said perhaps the board wants to tickle um these actions in the fall of every year just to make sure, are these items accomplished? Um, and Houston probably does that as a matter of course, but just to say, here’s a reminder 00:57:41,170 we have these things that need to be done in Burke Creek, and chances are, you know, Wendy could just put that in the tickle file and it’ll come up, so it won’t be missed. OK. Sounds good. Thanks, Dave. All right. Um, Missouri River Joint Board update this morning, I do have an update. Uh, we had a. 00:58:02,800 Meeting actually it would have been our Uh Summer meeting, so uh the counties that are currently uh part of the joint board or the counties. Adjoining the river, and the biggest item on the agenda was. Uh, reviewing and approving the amendment to the joint powers agreement. 00:58:33,270 And that’s the agreement by which counties uh join the joint board. And uh so now the amendments to that agreement, the, the highlights or the, the larger parts of the New agreement is to include all the counties in the basin there now. 00:58:59,470 Uh, once this is approved by the counties that are currently on the joint board so So that won’t really happen until December, uh, so, but when I get a clean copy of the new joint powers agreement. I’ll send it to Wendy. She’ll put it in the agenda book and then you’ll have an opportunity to review that and then at some date we’ll need to approve it and sign it. So then once that happens then we will be. 00:59:22,330 Rejoining the Missouri River joint board, assuming that that’s our wishes. Uh, so that part of that, that’s one of the bigger changes that now allows any number of counties. Uh, that’s inside the basin, virtually all the counties in southwestern North Dakota. Um, it also, uh, defines who would uh Represent the various county water resource boards. 00:59:50,670 are Old agreement, uh, specified that you had to be a water manager to be uh a representative to the From the water resource district to the joint board that no longer is a requirement. The only requirement is uh that uh the county Water Resource board appoint. Uh, somebody to represent them so they don’t have to be a manager. 01:00:16,900 Just somebody appointed by water resource board, and then as far as voting. The that person that is designated can designate a proxy to votes or because there’s going to be so many counties potentially as part of the board we needed to uh answer the question of quorum, the old quorum requirement was a majority. 01:00:41,870 There might be meetings where we don’t have a majority or two-thirds was the old, so now it’s just to a simple majority. So that’s one of the changes. That’s really the three bigger changes and. Uh, we did, uh, as far as the budget is concerned, we went from a July 1st requirement to a calendar year. 01:01:02,370 And we have now um. categorized the counties based on tax valuation. For instance, Burley County has the highest tax valuation will be in the upper tier for our dues. Uh, there are 3 tiers and uh the counties with the lowest tax valuation then will be in uh their dues and I think it’s 201,500 and 1000. 01:01:30,930 That’s what I recall as well, and that, of course, that’s not part of this agreement that’s That may change and it’s all dependent upon the budget and so, but uh this agreement did outline at least the fact that there’s 3 tiers, so it didn’t put prices on. And uh That’s all I have to report. 01:01:53,930 Yeah One question, you know, pointed appointed member, do they have to be a resident of that particular county? I don’t know if that’s addressed in here, uh, it’s not in there specifically, not in their specifically, so. You know, that’s a good point. I don’t know that we ever. brought that up, uh, um. 01:02:20,670 I It uh It it It’s yeah, because I guess as you think through it. Two different counties or 3 counties could appoint the same person and I don’t know if we, uh, if that’s uh. that would make sense of the accounting logical, yeah, I mean, you know, whoever paying taxes and I guess, uh, without it, uh, being specifically addressed. 01:02:48,930 My assumption is that most counties are going to want to have a representative that resides in your county, so. Maybe it’s a new point, but uh. But I I’ll bring it, I’ll bring it up. I’m on the executive committee of that board, so pretty easy language to add into. It is pretty easy language we would have to. 01:03:07,670 Potentially revote. Oh. Because we did approve it yesterday. And that was just, of course, the counties that are currently part of the joint board. Um But can be added as an amendment, Roger? Uh, yes, yeah. Oh, I’ll ask Greg, uh. Maybe it’s in there. 01:03:36,400 It could be, you know, I, I’d have to read it, I mean, I, I’ve been through it a number of times. I don’t believe it specifically states that though, um, I don’t know if anybody’s ever asked that question, Dennis. 01:03:52,500 I mean I’m just thinking, you know, was a board member which obviously would have been, would have been right, yeah, you know, it, it’s kind of one of those that under the circumstances, to your point, Dennis, it could happen, it’s probably unlikely and the scenario then it, it, it’s kind of like the one gentleman who was appointed to be on the board that Couldn’t be on the board because he wasn’t on the water resource district and everybody went, oh wait a minute, we have to change 01:04:07,600 because of that, so it may be a secondary thing but if it happens, then you got to address it. Um, I would add from the meeting, I found it interesting that there are 3 counties. That I can name That have expressed an interest in joining the board that are not current members. 01:04:26,670 Mhm So which ones are those? I think it’s Stark Billings and McLean and you start with that. McLean. McLean has not been part of it. McLean’s issue all along from the conversion from the bomb board to the Missouri River Joint Board was the issue of the authority of that board to create projects. 01:04:48,570 Understanding that the when the joint board was created, it assumed all of the powers available to it under the century code. 4 joint boards and that included projects. And so McLean County was. Hesitant to join because of that particular um topic and I think that’s being addressed because um any project that’s developed. 01:05:12,830 would have to be have an assessment district and the beneficiary, if there’s beneficiaries in McLean County, then they’d be assessed. McLean County would not be assessed if they’re not a beneficiary to a project, so, but again, that’s a they’re, they’re working with that scenario to get Uh, was there and he has expressed interest in convincing the remainder of the board, his 01:05:35,100 board to join. So. Yeah, that you said that’s his goal before you. Retires from the board. OK. All right, uh, I did notice another round of public meetings scheduled for the Yeah, so we did get an update by Ken Royce, who still managing the EAE uh program. And uh that’s exactly right. 01:06:00,630 So Monday, September 23rd is the beginning. That’s Dickinson and Williston, correct? Tuesday, the 24th is Newtown in Minot. Wednesday the 25th is Beulah and Washburn. And then Thursday the twenty-sixth is Mandan kill deer, so. I assume Roger, you’re gonna maybe tend to, I think I’ll go to the washboard Wah yeah mhm. OK. 01:06:26,430 Certainly, you know, if anybody else wanted to I’m going to Dickinson because I’m on the agenda for The Mandan one. Oh, it’s part of the panel. OK, so. And Ken is coming out for that whole week I believe so. OK. Very good. OK. Any other questions for Roger this morning that, thank you for the report, Roger. 01:06:51,870 OK, we can then move on to uh there’s no, I assume policy manual updates this morning so we can move on to new business. First item. I don’t if there’s any updates might come on the ice jam. No, just the context, um, there, there’s a new program coming out through FEMA. 01:07:12,330 It’s FSRMS, which has to do with the construction of Critical infrastructure or new development within floodplains that are financed through the housing and Urban Development. I may touch on that, uh, given the MRCC discussion in that memorandum, um, but at this point this kind of background information I haven’t. Hasn’t been on the top of the priority list at the moment, so. OK. Thank you, Michael. 01:07:35,070 Uh next item in your packet, I’m starting on page 13 is a letter we received from the North Dakota Water Resource Districts, um, Association they’re just talking about, you know, long tenured water managers in the state that have worked. their board or been a part of their board in those districts for 2025, 30, up to 40 years. 01:07:54,400 And just recognizing those long term managers and. We’re discussing a little bit before the meeting, you know, this Burley County have any? Managers that have served that long and I, I’m not aware of any, but then we started visiting a little bit of how would we find those records, so I don’t. 01:08:12,470 I don’t know what the boards thoughts are, but maybe we could see if if Wendy has access to some of those meeting minutes if you can just verify that we don’t have somebody. That we’re Not thinking about, but They would have at 20 year. Actually I think Ken Royce was probably the closest I think he was 18 years, but. Mr. 01:08:37,500 Chair, I certainly could, um. Probably with Wendy’s assistants, do a little research and try to find it. I think it would be good just to get on this roll because if you look through that, there’s several of them that are less than 10 years, but you know, it’s still just a kind of a documentation that, 01:08:51,330 you know, they served, whether it’s, you know, 5 years or, or 25 years, it’s still uh still just a data point, um. Maybe you can talk with Jack too to see what they have this database and you know, why isn’t there any Burley County data in there, I could do some more research and just come 01:09:08,000 back at the October I see they have a November 1 deadline and we we undoubtedly will not have anybody recognize that the December meeting, but I think it would be nice to get everybody on the roll as appropriate within reason. OK. Consensus there. 01:09:33,530 OK Yeah, I’m just for notice there are two that December, uh, Like coming out here pretty soon to sign up for that conference in December, yeah. OK. Moving on to the next item, there is the Upper Missouri Conference in Montana. I don’t, I don’t know if anybody’s attending that. 01:09:51,170 We have gone in the past, but it’s quite a ways out in western Montana, so it’s quite a drive for us, but. I’m assuming we won’t have anybody in attendance this year, but. Yeah, I, I have a conflict, otherwise I would consider it, but um, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. OK. Anybody there this year, that’s fine. 01:10:16,330 OK, move on to the, oh, I was gonna ask Michael, is there any update regarding the uh the permit for that subdivision off. Oh, summit subdivision, um. Everything’s gone to DOT, um. Casey has submitted all of his stuff to DOT and DOT in their review denied the permit, looking for additional information from Tollman. So that’s where it sets. 01:10:40,300 Nothing more that the district needs to do is just a matter of they’re missing some documentation that they would prefer to have. So at that point though, if they, if they come back with new information, do we have to re-review that at that point, or, or basically my understanding is the district is done. OK. 01:10:56,330 Like I said, there’s, there’s just some gaps in data or inconsistency that they want clarification on, so initially they’ve denied it and that’s where it stands on the side, OK, OK, thank you, Michael. Hey, there is additional information you can have regarding some temporary water permits in there as well, some plats and stormwater management plans, different subdivisions there if you want more information, you can certainly reach out to Wendy she can provide that upon 01:11:19,130 request. That, you know, questions on that, we can move on to item 13 this morning approval of this month’s bills. Chair board members on page 23 of the packet is a summary of the bills. 01:11:41,230 Um, I did go through them, the mass adds up, and then with the addition of the one bill that we just received, um, including that additional $4,685.48 brings our total bills for payment to $47,319.69. Um, Mr. Chair, I move approval of the payment of the bills in that amount. Yeah, a motion by Man Reap and a second by Man Jones to approve this month this month’s bills as amended with the additional Invoice this month. 01:12:10,530 We do you take roll call for you? Yes. Yes I’m on a burger, motion passing of the bills will be paid. OK, additional information in your packet there uh on the uh. Detail on some of the bills this month. Our next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, October 9th at 8 a.m. in the same room. 01:12:34,870 If we can attend that one. OK. If there’s no other action. For the board We