00:00:14,870	To the uh August 15th meeting of the Bismarck Border Park commissioners. Uh, we’ll start the meeting. I’ll call it to order and ask Julie to call the roll please. Comm. Gilbertson Herzog here. Redman here, Jesske here. President Zimmerman here. 2nd order of business is the Pledge of Allegiance if we’d all stand and join in that, please.

00:00:40,630	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. The third item is approval of the agenda. Do we have a motion? I’ll make a motion to approve the agenda as presented.

00:01:04,830	Motion’s been made in the second. Julie, if you’ll call the roll please, Comm. Gilbertson. Herzog, yes, Redman I Jesske President Zimmerman. Now that we approved the agenda, I’m going to add one item here quick. I’m gonna ask a Comm. Herzog.

00:01:30,600	Yeah, I’d, I, we just sense that after the agenda came out, we had a little bit of a rainstorm, which is interesting. Um, so I just wanted to, and I’m sure everybody here wants to thank the staff for acting real fast and some of them working late to clean things up, um, you know, get facilities ready. I’m sure the folks in the community really appreciate it and uh be happy to.

00:01:46,500	I was gonna say buy you a drink. I can’t do that, but whatever I can do just so you have my thanks very much and I’m sure the community thanks very much uh for acting quickly and working real hard and late, so appreciate that so much. Thanks everybody. You appreciate it. We see you. Other commissioners’ comments on it.

00:02:05,400	I would extend the thanks of all the park board members as well and I speaking to Mike with Mike as we walked in this evening, folks listening, the Elks pool will reopen.

00:02:22,170	Uh, executive director of Cliffell, President Zimmerman commissioners, that was one of the facilities that we had to put in a lot of work, but the staff opened today at noon again, so. All right, and the weather looks good for the weekend, so that’s a shameless plug. Get out to Elk’s pool for one more time. And again, thanks to the staff and all the folks for uh getting this cleaned up. The next item is the uh.

00:02:42,070	Featured partners and programs we are Fortunate to have with us this evening, Dr. Jeff Assnott, who is the superintendent of the Bismarck Public Schools. Welcome, Dr. Fastna. Um, good afternoon, commissioners. Thanks for the invitation, Mr. Cliffel and you for letting us talk about our very important partnership.

00:03:05,370	So I just have a few slides today to talk about the partnership between, uh, Bismarck Park and Rec and BPS and along the way I might actually do a couple shameless plugs as well. So, um, if I can, uh, Share with you just for some of you that don’t know me, um, Jeff Osnot, it’s my 2nd year starting in Bismarck Public Schools. Before that, I had the wonderful job of leading Comm.

00:03:25,330	Gilbertson, a man in public schools for 5 years previous to that, but I’ve been OK, um, don’t get me on but, uh, uh. 30/30 years as an educator, 2020 plus years as school leader before that in a small town in small towns in North Dakota.

00:03:48,030	So it’s a pleasure to be here in Bismarck and and working with you and and uh working for the Bismarck community. So, um, I guess, you know, kind of in the footsteps of our governor who leads with gratitude a lot as many times as he’s speaking, I’d like to just begin with the same statement.

00:04:07,230	Um, I think for this community, those people watching us tonight, even the people not watching us tonight, um. I think you need to just cherish the relationship that You and Bismarck Public Schools has, um, I think we have a wonderful relationship. It was very much modeled over my time in Mandan. It was a very strong relationship that benefits our community and our kids every single day.

00:04:30,400	It’s not a relationship that starts only in the winter and ends in the spring or conversely, any other time, there’s really never a shutdown. We’re always partnering on things, and I think that um by doing that, we’re you and us, my board, are very good stewards. of taxpayer dollars.

00:04:49,000	We’re trying to do our very best to provide the best product, the best opportunities for our community at the most economic value that we can, so, um, thank you for helping us be better at Bismarck Public Schools. My shameless plug to Comm. Herzog tonight and her thanking of your people.

00:05:09,700	I think your people as well, helping get your facilities ready for our kids returning, but I want to share um the super intense annual report. This is actually a new document that I shared with my board on Monday.

00:05:27,170	Um, kind of a new to production, our publication, but it’s coming from my desk to the citizens of Bismarck, and so that’s you, you should know a little bit of information about your public school and uh kind of a little synopsis of my last year in review and what I see as the challenges moving forward, but then there’s also a couple of pages just a brilliant graphics to hopefully grab your attention and as I joked at my meeting, give some of the old guys at coffee, something to talk about, OK,

00:05:44,170	but, um, one I think you. enjoy is 36 times around the globe is how many miles Bismarck Public School buses travel in a year. You put that in perspective, that is a lot of tire changes. That’s a lot of oil changes. It’s not something trivial, and I’m sure we, we’ll see it next week.

00:06:02,370	We’ll notice all the yellow buses on the road. Um, the other one I want to point out to you, and we’re going to talk about food or child nutrition and a little bit is over 2 million meals that my staff produces for our children, um.

00:06:18,330	You don’t think about that money in in the school system, but that is a lot of meals being produced for our kids, so I hope you enjoy it and again it’s just informative, so you can see how your school’s doing.

00:06:38,030	All right, so our partnerships, um, first one, most obvious one, I think the pride of last year was being uh with you to be able to open up, um, the VFW edition at the Sports Center, um, BPS partnered in that and gave a contribution to help finalize that.

00:06:57,630	I’m sure you’re all well aware of that and we’re very proud of that and uh really ice in our community is a very premium product, and without you, it’d be really difficult for us to um. Put our teams on the ice. Um, we need more and more of that and what the expansion of girls hockey just a couple of years ago that that thank you for doing that, made that a reality and uh I will hopefully see those programs continue to grow.

00:07:17,500	I hear from my um athletic department that we have more and more participation in hockey all the time, so that’s a good thing. The other one is the bowl, um, if you’ve been around a long time, but the bow authority is made up of Bismarck Public schools and Park and Rec and partnership on that with other entities.

00:07:34,700	Um, I think that’s the pride of Bismarck. It should be one of the many shining stars in our community, the bulls a tremendous facility not only for football but for track and field. And uh we take a lot of pride in that and um it’ll be open here very soon, I think our next game is next week.

00:07:51,800	Our first game is next week, um, but we Thank you for that partnership. Thank you for helping to support that and uh help uh that stay a shining star in our community. Um, we do need you though. I’m just going to be really blunt.

00:08:10,000	Without you, I don’t know where we’d have, you know, some soccer, we’d have a little soccer, we wouldn’t have enough soccer. We wouldn’t have enough softball, enough tennis courts to to fill the needs that we have for Bismarck, uh, public schools and our athletic and physic physical education programs, but all those in there are facilities that we are borrowing, renting, uh, from you and uh I think again

00:08:30,500	that’s that good stewardship of the dollar is that we don’t want Go build competing entities in our community. They’re really, um, support both the endeavors of your work and our work. So, uh thank you for doing that.

00:08:46,300	Those are hugely vital and important, and, and I know they’re going to expand, right? We’re going to do more of that. We’re going to build more of those facilities as we continue to grow. But we do try to give back.

00:09:03,500	I mean, it’s not just BPS taking from Parkboard all the time or Park and rec, um, but we do try to give up and use our facilities for some of these programs that you sponsor, uh, adult volleyball, adult basketball, youth baseball, open gym, um, you’re using BPS facilities for those and we’re glad to open those up and make those available to our community partners like yourself and, and all the people who just want to go out and have a little physical fitness at night, get

00:09:21,670	a little bit of energy burnt out. It could be a, a, a neighborhood meeting, whatever it is, or one of these activities, I think that’s a really important for us, um, kind of a theme that I’ve, um, even elections, we’ve talked about that, the importance of opening schools because we’re a community partner and this is

00:09:37,370	just another example of that. But it goes beyond facilities, uh, you help us, uh, co-sponsor youth cross country, uh, 5th grade track meet. I took my first one of those in this spring. I’ve never been to a 5th grade track meet in Bismarck.

00:09:59,670	Wow, that is amazing, and honestly, we have, uh, employees from both that are helping make that operate, you know, it’s not just the facility, it’s actually operating a huge track meet with 1000 kids in it, you know, so and, and they’re not really track athletes yet. They’re still learning how to do.

00:10:17,730	Track, but it was a great event, um, but youth, um, youth basketball after school programs, um, those are all vitally important for us, summer summer programs and for people who don’t know, um with city officials, Mr. Cliffel and I, we meet monthly that relationship is so important that we’re meeting with City park, and schools once a month because we need to keep communicating. We need to talk about how can we be better.

00:10:35,930	Let’s address any problems that come up. Um, so it’s not just happen chance, it’s intentional. that we’re trying to work very well together. One, I don’t know if you’re aware of. I’m sure you are.

00:10:52,930	I don’t know the community is, is a local foods coordinator, and this has been around for a few years, but um just recently we moved that position to Bismarck Public School instead of we’d hired a couple positions and we’d lost that employee, they kind of transitioned off to another job. It’s kind of a part-time job. We brought that into BPS and said, let’s partner with a positions that we already have.

00:11:10,430	For us it’s our elementary child nutrition program and said, let’s give those duties to a couple people that needed a little like Little expanded work time. OK, let’s give them a full-time job. We did that and, and, uh, you helped contribute to their salary.

00:11:27,200	You help defray some of that along with the city, um, this, uh, local foods coordinator, if you’re at Bism Market, if you’re at the orchard, if you want to help, uh, how do I become a food producer, food vendor in the community and be able to sell my um. My Not wars, but my produce in the community, um, that these people help coordinate that.

00:11:46,600	They help build those resources, um, for us, we just had a big event that they helped coordinate. You might have heard it last year, but we had a group of people with their leadership shucking over 500 bushels of corn. Thank you, Comm. Zerman.

00:12:06,600	That is a lot of corn, OK, 500 bushels of corn, um, just so we could get it prepped and frozen and processed, so we’re gonna feed it to our students during the year. They’re going to get fresh corn grown here and in our community in part due to their work, making sure we have that and we’re looking at Bismarck Public Schools looking at expanding that.

00:12:24,470	How can we provide or build facilities that we can process more local produce, so we can provide more fresh local produce to our kids versus process. Food, so we’re, we’re working on that and hopefully they’ll help us, so I know they will. So aside from that, it would be a big huge thank you. Thank you for all you do to support our kids.

00:12:44,070	School starts next week, Wednesday and uh really appreciate all you do to help support our children, so. I’d stand for any questions. Yeah Comm. Gilbertson. First of all, thank you for From my professional side, thank you for for your your leadership and in Mandan and uh Bismarck is is lucky to have you, um, but from my Post here, um, it

00:13:08,370	is so, uh, it is so nice to see the um. renewed, uh, The renewed uh working relationship. I mean, yes, the executive directors and the superintendents probably have met.

00:13:35,830	For years and years and years, but the public um That that public uh recognition of that partnership is something that hasn’t been there and um And that is something that I, I believe in Bismarck, you know, the, the park district we have. Pages and pages and pages and hundreds and hundreds of partnerships with individual groups and that is amazing and that is the heart of what makes our district go, but, you know, we also.

00:13:57,030	It would be nice to not. Have to have so many lone Wolf. Groups be, you know, the coming together of entities is uh for the the good and the sake of the community, um, and, and in particular, the children of our community is, is I mean, there’s There’s only benefit to it, so thank you for making

00:14:23,300	that a priority, and I hope to see that, um, continue, um with the uh bringing, bringing the entities together, thank you. I, I think Mr. Gilbertson, you know, um, as long as you’ve known me, which has been a while, I’m about bringing people together, not silent us or tearing us apart so the better we work together, the

00:14:42,200	better off our community is, so. Comm. Jeske, thank you, President Gilbertson. Um, this is a wonderful report and I’m just kind of curious on how you’re sharing it with the community because I think there’s information in here that’s so valuable to our citizens stakeholders. Well, I appreciate that, Comm.

00:15:04,400	Jeske, um, actually, it was hopeful to be on our website already. It probably is if you dig into our board agenda, you’ll find the link, um, but we want to put it out front and center, but if uh some wonderful staff of mine wouldn’t be New expectant father we’d have that on there, but I’m letting him stay home and be a wonderful father and

00:15:19,370	give him a few days, and he hasn’t trained me on how to edit the website yet or I’d have that on there, so, um, very soon we hope to get that up there so everybody can find it readily and maybe by tomorrow I’ll throw it out on social media, so. Comm. hot dog. Yeah, thanks for coming, Dr.

00:15:36,070	Foss. I, since I’m one of your lowly employees as an assistant coach. I’m curious how, um, and get to see this partnership every day in the mornings we take over the courses with our girls and, um, it’s a great partnership.

00:15:52,970	How are you doing with coaches and staff and everything? Are you, are you staffed up? How’s how’s everything going? I’m not asking because I could use another one, but I maybe could Comm. Herzog, you don’t need another assistant, do we, in your program? we can handle that. Um, first of all, let me correct you, not lowly, I coached for many years coaching as a, um, it’s, uh, God’s work.

00:16:11,870	I mean, it’s you’re right there with kids every day giving your heart and soul that and you just happen to do sports with it, right? So, um, that’s a very important work. Actually, uh, Mr. Cliffel asked me how we’re doing with staffing beforehand.

00:16:28,330	I think we’re doing very well, um, I was sharing there’s another Class A school in our state who, um, has had to go overseas to hire at least over 20. Of their new special ed staff. We have not had to do that.

00:16:46,330	I think we have a few positions open obviously because we kind of have a position open all the time with 2300 employees, um, but for the most part, classrooms were staffed, um, I think we might be filling one right now, but I think they had that was in process, but, um, no, we’re doing remarkably well than we have the last couple of years, so feeling very happy about that. And that was the first time I was ever fingerprinted to be a coach, and I did.

00:17:04,130	Pass, so if anyone’s listening, it’s easy to, to get through the process and it’s fun for sure. Comm. Redman, thanks for coming. We appreciate the partnership so much and thanks for touching on some of my favorites being Blast and the 5th grade track meet and open gym.

00:17:20,900	I just love it that the gyms are open and families can go play. I just love that just unstructured fun. So, um, tell us any exciting news for the future that you can tell us any buildings or programs or something new? Can you, you know, give us an inside scoop, Comm. Redman, you’re trying to get me in trouble, are you? No.

00:17:39,100	Uh, no, nothing, uh, building wise, we probably will be meeting with our community in this fall talking about transportation. That’s a big theme for us. Um, we need to improve how we deliver transportation, bus services in our community, um, just, it’s, it’s all boils down to, um, staffing, right? We’re all struggling with staffing when I’m short 456 bus drivers

00:18:01,500	in the morning? What’s that mean? I have now delayed routes. I’m not picking up kids when mom and dad expect them. None of that is. Wonderful to have in the morning when you’re trying to get coffee and get to work on time, right? So, um, we want to try to work on trying to improve reliability and

00:18:17,700	effectiveness of transportation. That’ll be a focal point, um, this year we’ll probably be talking, we have some facility needs in the district, I’ll be honest, just my year here. Um, there are some schools that need some attention.

00:18:35,700	They need some uh uh bringing up to the quality that we have and other of our new schools, some of our older schools need to be. lifted up, um, but nothing I don’t think we can address as a community, something that we can challenge or challenge yourself to do and and if we believe education is important, we’ll get it done, so. Dr.

00:18:54,200	Fossnot, where is the, uh, Bismarck School District number wise with the rest of the state just as a matter of curiosity. Oh, you mean like student count? Yes, please. Number one. Thank you very much. you plug. I had heard that and I wasn’t sure if you’re still number one. I know Wes Fargo is growing.

00:19:11,900	They’re, they’re catching, but honestly, all of us have slowed down a little bit. There’s this little, I don’t, I can’t say it’s a COVID lull because all these kids born in kindergarten were born right before COVID, but I think Man Dan talking with Dr.

00:19:28,470	Bitz this morning, we’re all experiencing a little bit of slowdown in our kindergarten numbers, but I know for Bismarck, we’re expected to pick up again next year, um, but, uh, I, I had it on my slide. I didn’t notice it, but.

00:19:48,270	The 2 o’clock this afternoon, I think it was 13,750, 60 kids, um, so that probably changed by another 20 before I left and came over here, so, um, but we are still ahead of Wes Fargo, so is Lincoln Elementary, the largest elementary school in North Dakota. Did I hear that number wise? and we just proudly, well, well, we just toured on Monday night and we’ll proudly open an expansion to that building that will now have a capacity over 800. It doesn’t.

00:20:05,670	Have 800 in it, but it could have 800 in it, um, so it is a very large elementary school. Other commissioners, other questions? Thank you, Dr.. Have a good school year. Thank you. Thank you for all you do. I don’t uh. 5 on the agenda. I’m pleased to have uh Mike Herzog, who is the director of Brudge.

00:20:33,830	Bridge construction for uh Burlington Northern Santa Fe Rail Bridge. And Mike. I’ll turn it over to you and welcome. Thank you, President Zimmerman, Commissioners, thank you for the opportunity to come speak to you tonight with our project, our bridge replacement project nearing a midpoint.

00:20:54,430	We felt it was a good time to come provide an update on how the work’s progressing, what we’ve been able to do to date and what things are going to look like in the near future going into next year.

00:21:12,130	So starting out with what we’ve done today, uh, most of our work, I’ll say, has been focused on the west side of the river with constructing our highway access that allows us to haul dirt in to construct the new westerly embankment.

00:21:29,500	In addition, we constructed our some of our marine access with a dock wall on the west side of the river that allowed us to set ourselves up for constructing Pier 7, the one pier that’s out in the middle of the river that we’re working on right now. In addition to piers 8 and 9 that are a little further west. So today, well, in addition to that, we have performed some work on the Bismarck side. We have 4 substructure units that we’ve completed. And with this work we’ve completed today.

00:21:51,000	I feel we’ve been pretty darn successful with having minimal impact to the vehicular traffic on the River Road and the pedestrian traffic on River Road Trail. Now looking forward to the work that’s probably gonna start this fall, September time frame and on into 2025, that’s going to shift with a lot more work coming over to the Bismarck side and the, the BNSF right

00:22:11,200	away between River Road and the edge of the river is going to become much more congested. The work that you’re going to see taking place, we’re gonna be working on Pier 4, which is immediately adjacent to River Road, will be constructing an east dock wall off the east shore of the the river.

00:22:28,570	will help provide marine access for constructing piers 5 and 6 that are just out in the river succinctly, 5 being the closest, 6 being another 200 ft out. So with this area becoming much more congested, active construction zone, there’s going to be impacts to, to River Road, River Road Trail.

00:22:50,870	BNSF recognizes how important the trail is to the community, so we are currently evaluating a couple of concepts to keep the trail open for the rest of 2024. Uh, concepts we’re looking at. How do I get that up there? All right, thank you. So we’re evaluating a couple of concepts that will allow uh.

00:23:27,730	River Road trail to stay open through 2024. Uh, the first one we’re working on is we’re working with our contractor looking at various construction activities that are taking place this fall. seeing maybe how we can resequence some of this work and not impact the overall schedule.

00:23:47,030	Now, if we’re unsuccessful in doing that, we have a concept up on the screen that was developed in conjunction with the city of Bismarck Engineering team looking at using temporary traffic signals on River Road to control traffic with the easternmost lane being used for vehicular traffic controlled by the traffic signals on each side, and then trail traffic, pedestrians, bicycles would be detoured into the westernmost lane where they.

00:24:13,530	Cross the BNSF right away and then detoured back onto the trail. This is a concept, like I said, we’re, we’re looking at employing if we need to, to try to keep the trail open for the rest of 2024. Now, beyond 2024, um, we’re still working on that. There will be impacts.

00:24:35,300	There will be a time where there is just too much activity for the co-mingling of pedestrian traffic and construction traffic and we’ll be closing the trail down. Like I said, we recognize how important the trail is, so we’re doing our best to keep it open as long as we can.

00:24:54,200	That’s really the extent of the update I wanted to provide, and I’m happy to answer any questions you may have. Commissioners, uh, Comm. Gilbertson. I, I do appreciate uh the, the willingness of NSF to to work on this and and to keep that open, but you know, and. Where we sit and you know that when you close it down, you’re not gonna hear a thing.

00:25:19,170	It’s gonna be us who are gonna take All of that, so it’s, it’s one of those things where everything you can do to get out in front of it and, and, and I understand that it will, that it will need to be shut down for because obviously you can’t have people walking under, you know, but the, you know, initially it was, you know.

00:25:43,670	The conversations we were having were like. A year and a half where I mean, and it was like, oh my God, that’s, that is, that is not OK, but this, you know, the willingness to work on it and, and find an option for the sake of the citizens, because it is, it is a It is

00:26:05,870	probably the, I mean, with the exception of Tom O’Leary, it’s probably the most used trail in the city, and it’s year round. It’s not just. In the summertime.

00:26:28,430	So it’s, you know, I, I commend you for realizing and taking into consideration the importance that this has to to the to the community, um, but, you know, I, I, and I would implore you and be an SF to please, please, please get out in front of that and and do all you can to to minimize that from your end because we will do what we can, but if we work together, It will, it will, it will definitely help.

00:26:48,630	Help the citizens understood and thank you. Comm. Jesske, President Zimmerman, so Mike, thank you for coming here today. um, and I appreciate the update. I really appreciate the fact that you are willing to work with us.

00:27:06,430	I do think that’s so important, um, safety is a number one issue for you and, and it’s a safe and it’s the same for us. So when is the bridge? Construction supposed to complete? What’s the actual date on that? I know this is, um, 2025 construction season and beyond.

00:27:31,400	So when, when is it projected completion of the bridge, the new bridge we are currently showing as being completed in uh second half of 2026 and then removal of the existing bridge will extend into, say, mid 27. OK. Thank you. You’re welcome. Comm. Redman. No, I’m done. your own Mike just a couple of questions. Oh, I’m sorry, go ahead, commissioner’s.

00:27:55,200	Thank you, President Zimmerman, and I just need to say no relation between us and it’s so odd last name but um we are not related. Full disclosure, I don’t know this man, um, my question was, when you do have to close it down in a little bit to what Comm.

00:28:13,300	Gilbertson was saying, how much of a heads up do we get so we can let the public know to maybe reroute their run or their trail experience, um, is it A day is it, are you gonna know a couple weeks in advance maybe what gets closed off? Just curious on the time frame of how, how we can get it out to the public so as I mentioned, our efforts for the rest of 2024 is to find a way to keep

00:28:30,100	the trail open through the rest of 2024 when Mother Nature really shuts us down for his construction. When Mother Nature shuts down construction for the season, we would take off the temporary traffic control concept from River Road, we would restore River Road trail for the winter and then.

00:28:51,400	It more than likely be in the spring sometime when we shut the trail down and we would be able to provide. We’ll have our arms around it to provide good good notification. I’m gonna say a month or so ahead of time. Thank you. Comm. Gilbertson. Thank you, uh, President Zimmerman, and yes, and I, and thank you, Comm.

00:29:17,070	Herzog, for you, you hit on, I think what I was getting to is the it’s the surprise of of Today, like, oh, it’s gonna shut down tomorrow. That’s, that is the that is the thing that is, is really hard to deal with, so thank you for for committing to that. I appreciate that and thank you.

00:29:36,670	I guess what I’ll I’ll piggyback on this maybe with part of the, an answer that you didn’t ask about. When we do close the trail down. It’s like any construction zone. There will be days when people go by, they’re doing nothing out there.

00:29:54,170	Well, for one reason or another, when you’re looking at it, nothing’s going on. And The intention would be we need to maintain the, the closure so you don’t have open, closed, open, closed and keep people guessing. So that would be our intention in going into the construction where we’re active on the Bismarck side.

00:30:15,870	Well Mike, I appreciate you uh attending tonight and your colleague Amy, thank you for coming down. Everybody asks the questions they asked all the questions I was going to ask, but I do have one and not to put you on the spot, but for folks listening in, I don’t think we’ve had a lot of uh information on what’s the, how many employees do you

00:30:30,330	have on the project? Is that a fair question to ask? Just out of curiosity as I go up and down the river and see all the activity? Well, it’s a moving target based on, uh, the activity. the contractor has taking place. And I guess I’m gonna say somewhere. 50 to 75 right now.

00:30:54,430	And Don’t put a lot of confidence in that number because I’m just giving you a swag. Well, again, as you know, as a board member, I appreciate the As I’ve worked with you on this bridge project before, I appreciate BNSF’s.

00:31:13,130	Forthrightness to, you know, put the information out there and I hope, yes, you’ll work with Kevin and the staff to keep it up because I use the trail a lot as we all do. So I think yeah as much advanced notice as we can get will be good for all of us. So thank you for taking the time and coming in tonight. All right. Well, thank you for allowing me the time to speak. All right.

00:31:26,400	Have a good night. All right, let me get back to Now come on, Mark. Yeah It’s agenda they’re doing that yeah. Trying to use my thing here to. All right, thank you. Uh, next is a request to participate in the Bismarck Renaissance Zone program. Daniel Nairn, the planning manager for the city of Bismarck is here.

00:31:56,100	Well, and Daniel, thanks for waiting for your time here at the podium. So, uh, let’s hear a little bit about the Renaissance zone planning. No problem at all. Good evening, uh, President Zimmerman, park board members, so I’m here to discuss the Renaissance zone. You may remember for last year we’re pretty much had the same conversation.

00:32:14,500	And we presented some information and uh background on the Ren and Stone program. I’ll keep it really short and sweet this evening, um, because you really saw a lot of data and charts and all of that last year. Um, you did end up supporting it. Uh, we were able to secure a one year extension last year.

00:32:29,070	Uh, we had some requests to make changes to the program, so I just like to maybe describe what those were and then why I’m here today. Uh, so one of the things we would like to do is ensure that other political subdivisions have a more active.

00:32:45,170	or have the opportunity to have a more active role in this program. Uh, it is a city of Bismarck program, but it does impact the park district to see um the Burley County Commission, the school board, uh, and so we’ve been asked and we’ve responded to that um to ensure that there are more opportunities to participate.

00:33:00,170	One of those would be that any time we change the rules of the program, uh, the development plan we call it, uh, we would seek support for those changes from you and the other taxing communities, the other subdivisions, uh, and so we do have draft of that, there’s a lot of detail.

00:33:16,470	I don’t expect you to have read all of it and really um really internalize all of that, but uh it is our program guidelines or rules for this program, uh, and so anytime we make changes, uh, we would like to have the opportunity to ask for your support for those. Uh, we have changed a few things related to the way benefits are calculated.

00:33:32,030	I don’t, I can go into more of these details if you’d like, um, but those are all in, in the plan, uh, and also, uh, we would like to offer you the opportunity to have a member.

00:33:48,630	Of the pork boards sit on the Renaissance Zone Authority and that option would be available to all of the other taxing entities as well. We know the Burleigh County Commission wants to do this, but because they do, we want to provide this opportunity to everybody else as well.

00:34:05,530	Uh, so there is one question I’d have for you this evening if you would um like to participate in that way or not, um, and then the third question would be whether you continue to support the program and wish to offer another 5 year extension.

00:34:26,300	As, as you may recall, uh, by state law, we do need to have support from the community broadly to have this program operate, uh, we, um, do go to the other political subdivisions to ask for that support and so if you do wish to support it for 5 years, uh, that would, uh, I wouldn’t come back to you for that, with that request for another 5 years after that, assuming we would continue to have a program.

00:34:40,800	Um, so if you have any questions of me, I can certainly attempt to answer them. I know some of you are. Very familiar with this program and others of you, um, probably have a, some familiar with you as well. Any questions for Daniel? Comm. Jesske. Uh no, I just have my light on. I’m sorry. Daniel, so again, you would.

00:35:02,700	Ask the board to consider appointing a member of the board to the zoning authority at this time. That the main request here. Yes, President Zimmerman, that would be one request. The, the appointment would not need to begin until January, so it could be done anytime you would like, um, but by January that would be the starting date for it. Thank you.

00:35:24,970	Commissionerjke, President Zimmerman, Daniel, thank you for coming here again today. Um, my question is how long is that commitment? Are you looking for a five-year commitment from the person that would be appointed by the park district, or are you looking for a two-year commitment and then is it strictly park board, or is there the opportunity to appoint someone from the park

00:35:42,870	district, so someone from the staff. Sure, so I guess I’ll answer that question in reverse. So the, um, it would be from the board itself, and that is something that was written into the development. Plan and that was discussed by the Renaissance Zone Authority, um, but that is how it was structured.

00:35:59,170	Um, the second question would be that the appointments made by the boards would be up to you, uh, the terms that you would wish to serve on we uh currently the, um, uh, the appointee from the city commission, uh, is certainly is done as a portfolio for the city commission and so that the timeline for that is, is at the

00:36:21,330	discretion of the city commission. So you would have that discretion as well. OK. Yeah, the reason I ask that is because we have two newly elected commissioners who are 4 years to their term and then there’s 3 of us that are sitting here with 2 years, less than 2 years, so I was just

00:36:35,030	kind of curious about the time commitment. Other questions for Daniel? And Comm., President Zimmerman and Daniel, again, I, I am at all the meetings, but as I understood it, the Burleigh County did want a seat, um, it didn’t. We didn’t know if the other political subdivisions also wanted a seat, so it’s an option for you.

00:36:58,730	You don’t necessarily have to if you don’t want to, um, but I think we felt that Sun Burley County had one that it would be right to ask everybody if they wanted one as well, so. Comm. Gilbertson.

00:37:22,100	President Zimmerman and Daniel, um, the, uh, I gotta be honest, I’ve I appreciate you coming, but every time you kind of feel like I’m reliving Groundhog’s Day because every time you come to this board has has approved it and shown our support and you know, and it’s just. One um, and, uh, but I think that some of the, uh, you know, some of the changes.

00:37:43,900	Proposed I think are probably a good, a good thing and, and uh well. Hopefully increase the the transparency and I mean, not that. I don’t think that there was any. Real worry of lack of to begin with, but, um, but it will, it will be a good thing. Um, were you gonna make a motion or can I? Please do. There you go. You OK, Comm.

00:38:11,000	, go ahead. President Zimmerman, I would move that the uh that the uh. Border Park commissioners approved the amendments to the Renaissance zone, uh, development plan, and with a 5-year extension to the program.

00:38:40,200	And um, Uh I would put in my motion that the president be um or designee of uh would represent the the Park Board of Commissioners on on this on this on the Renaissance zone. The second to that motion. I’ll make that 2nd. Any further discussion? President Zimmerman, President, Comm. Jake.

00:39:01,400	Uh, Daniel, so my question to you is, is it OK if we take the luxury of time to decide who we like to appoint to the board or do you need that motion today. Thanks for that question. Absolutely you can take that time.

00:39:17,970	Um, it is, is very helpful for the first part of the motion to be today, and I appreciate that because what we’ll do is if we get that level of support, uh, we still need to seek approval from the state and so we would bring that to them and and have that completed, but the question of who would serve, if anyone, that that can certainly wait. Until December if you wish. OK. Thank you. Comm. Gilbertson, are you all right with perhaps striking that part of your emotion was president or designee. All right, very good.

00:39:39,570	Clarify that we’re all right on the 2nd. Julie, if you’ll call the roll please, Comm. Gilbertson. Herzog, yes, Redman Jesske President Zimmerman. Thank you. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is a representative from the uh. Baseball park funding group, Dr. Steve Chuppy.

00:40:07,570	I, uh, familiar face here at the park board. And we’re welcome you to the uh meeting this evening and, um. The floor is yours. All right. Excuse me, Comm. Zimmerman and Commissioners, thank you for having me here. Uh, good evening. Um, I’m here on behalf of the Bismarck baseball boosters and the baseball user groups in Bismarck.

00:40:33,030	And I’m here to ask permission to pursue a capital campaign. Um, To raise funds for the completion of phase 3 of the municipal ballpark in Dakota Community Bank and Bank and Trustfield.

00:40:56,130	And along with that, of course, we would like to have uh the opportunity to continue to work with the BPRD staff uh to create promotional materials they’ve done that already. And to assist us in this process now. To provide some history for this, uh, we initially started this project of, of doing the municipal ballpark renovation in 2014 and the improvement that was made to that field has been tremendous. I mean, it’s been fabulous.

00:41:20,600	Uh, one of our goals, of course, was to have a a a high-end ballpark, and we have that. We have the, the uh grandstand, the field is going to have turf. I feel like we are really going to have from that outside portion of that We have a beautiful, complex and facility. And that has really served Bismarck well.

00:41:39,500	Um, it’s, it’s helped us to bring in the Bismarck Clarks. It’s helped us to host tournaments. I feel like we have a better chance of hosting tournaments than what we used to have. Um, and it’s, it’s a better, uh, ballpark for the University of Mary, uh, for our Legion program and hopefully at some point with BSC as well.

00:41:58,900	So Um, And, and with that, I’d I’d really like to thank. The park and rec department for working so closely with baseball and that, and not just that, I mean, I, I, I feel like listening to Dr. Fastnat was, was awesome for me to hear that uh that symbiotic relationship between the schools and BPRD. It’s no different for baseball.

00:42:21,370	Um, Our, our Legion program, our, our high school programs are, are, you know, that includes varsity and JV. Our collegiate programs, um, BYB all of that has benefited from. BPRD And that is, that includes Taley Fields.

00:42:45,070	It’s not just municipal ballpark that includes the Shields complex, really are, are tremendous growth that we’ve seen in baseball in our community would not be possible with with your support. So we really appreciate that and we know that we get it at a good rate. So we love that, but. Having said all that, There’s, there’s more that needs to be done in this phase 3.

00:43:05,270	Um, is beautiful as the field and the grandstand and all of that is the parking lot, the entryway, it’s all beautiful, but we have a huge hole in that our locker room is really, really inadequate. Um, it’s very small. It’s a home team, um.

00:43:28,530	Locker room and it also serves as the train, the facility for trainers and, and staff to work in there to work on ball players. Um, that room is a small warming house. That’s essentially what it is and I’m not sure how old it is, but I’m gonna guess and say about 30 or 35 years old, something like that. And I don’t think it’s had a single improvement. There’s no AC in it.

00:43:49,530	Um, sometimes we will have 2 large s games, for example, we have 25 ball players in there. 2 or 3 trainers or chiropractic staff is there, and we even have to have a posing ballplayers come into there. There is no opposing team locker room at Municipal Ballpark. So it’s wonderful as all the rest of it is.

00:44:08,230	We still need to take that next step and so that’s what I’m here to ask you for. So I guess with that I I. Certainly open it up to questions that you may have.

00:44:27,300	I was here last spring asking for, we kind of hurriedly asked for this because we had uh the destination development grants that were coming up and it was little it was quick. We had to really throw things together quickly to do that.

00:44:46,900	At that time, we, we were planning on using the um 501c3 of the Bismarck Clarks to help us access those state funds at this time I think we could go the more traditional way of going through the BRC uh for that. So I guess with that I’d like to open up. Comm. Redman Zimmerman. Hello, Dr. Steve.

00:45:04,000	It’s nice to see you and I’m, um, first of all, thanks for being here and I’m so grateful, um, to you and I’m, I’m, I’m thinking of our good friend Al Borge this evening in the in the Capitol campaign from 2014. So thanks for all your work and your dedication and your passion for, um, youth baseball in Bismarck and um I’m very grateful for that.

00:45:23,370	So tell me what um for this locker room, for this phase 3, do you have a, a dollar amount in mind? For this and um what do you what do you expect from the Park district for that financial responsibility at this point. Nothing. Nothing. And here’s what I mean by that.

00:45:38,370	We’re here, what we want to do at this point is we want to try to go out and raise funds and see what we can do. We, we want to be able to see how much funds we can raise, and this is, it’s kind of a unique project, uh, because in many of the part. Projects, there’s not, um, there’s not a business entity in them. It’s all 501c3s and that type of thing.

00:45:58,770	This has the Bismarck Clarks in there which were extremely proud of. I mean that was part of the reason we redid the ballpark. We wanted to bring in a Northwoods League team. So we’re very proud of that.

00:46:20,030	Um, But in, in, uh, In, in the process of getting to that, we um, we feel as though The dollar amount depends on the depth of the project. Here’s what I mean by that. So the the initial amount that we’ve received was $17 million for the whole project and the project, the, the, the renderings and the, the, the, the plan has been laid out and I believe.

00:46:39,630	Proved, right? Is that, has that been approved, at least the plan part of it, right? So that’s $17 million but it, it involves more than locker rooms, a lot more than locker rooms. Um, it will have. Uh, uh, home and away.

00:47:00,530	Set of locker rooms it’ll have training facilities, um, meaning for, uh, for facilities for people to come work out and hit and pitch and do those types of things. There will be uh an area for the medical, you know, that type of thing for, for, for that, there’ll be a kitchen. For the larks and and some office space. Which I see as a real potential benefit, and here’s what I mean by that. Um, The larks are willing to help.

00:47:22,200	With the Capitol campaign and I believe they will be contributing. To that campaign, but some of that will be dependent on how much they can get for it and the opportunity that I see is that if there’s a kitchen, if there’s their office space, that type of thing, that would be a revenue source that can go right into hopefully maintaining the

00:47:42,400	ballpark and, and doing that type of thing, uh, to me, from a business side that to me personally makes sense, but that’s a business decision for you to make, of course.

00:48:00,100	So Does, did that answer that question? Well, kind of, so you don’t really know you, you’re asking for permission to have staff put those campaign materials together so you have materials to go and see what you can what what the what the market might support is basically what you’re asking, Comm. Redmond and we are when we’re going out to do the ask, we’re going at it as though we’re going to try to raise 17 million.

00:48:15,000	We want, we want, what, what my goal is, I want to have us raise a big number so that your decision next time is really easy. If we go out and we lay an egg and we get nothing. I’m not coming back. OK. I mean, it’s just that simple.

00:48:34,300	We, we, we are aiming high and we did last time and it worked so I think that’s certainly possible, um, but we want to try to, we want to try to get the user groups together and find out what all they can have.

00:48:51,200	You know, how much they’re willing to contribute and we’ve had those discussions already and there’s definitely interest, but we need to have harder numbers and we also need to get to a point where The quirky part of, of having the larks being able to rent and do that type of thing and how much they’ll pay for, uh, to me, that’s a good opportunity for you and executive Director Clipfold to be able to.

00:49:08,400	Knock down some of those numbers and come up with some, some figures that can make sense. I could see where, you know, in the, in the past when we did the ballpark, I think we had mostly it was half from businesses and individuals and roughly half from BPRD.

00:49:24,570	I’m, if we do this right, I don’t want to come back and have to ask for half of it. I’d like to see if maybe, maybe we could get enough raise through those other entities to maybe have it be a court or a lower amount. I want it to be a I want your I want your decision to be simple next time. Comm. Gilbertson.

00:49:42,870	Uh, Steve, do you, you don’t have to give specifics, obviously, but you know $170 million do you have? Lead sponsors in mind, I mean in your discussions, I mean, I, I guess a yes or no, you know, I mean. That’s a fair question, Comm. Gilbertson, and yes, we do have, we have lead sponsors in mind.

00:50:09,370	But again, that will depend on how much we put into that. Um, If we’re only, if, if we’re really. Unable to raise nearly as much funds as we like, we could. I suppose it could end up to be another phase, you know, because to me there’s some glaring needs that we really need to take care of right away.

00:50:27,330	I would love to have a training facility on the south side. I would love that because we don’t have that when you, and, and by the way, so currently we have um we have the Gulf dome also a wonderful.

00:50:45,330	Partnership that we’ve had both in fast pitch softball and in baseball, we have used the tar out of that place and we continue to, and we love that, and we appreciate that, but it’s difficult to get in there. It’s very tight. Soccer takes up a lot of time in there to go to Sanford. They’re almost always full with soccer.

00:51:01,130	And when I go in, I still, I’m still coaching the youth systems and whatnot, and whenever I can, I like to sneak in there. It’s really hard to get in there. And I can assure you this, um, most of the kids that are in there are not kids that, um. That they’re oftentimes they’re kids of means.

00:51:15,430	They’re able to get in there because they have parents that can afford to get them there and that type of thing. I would like to see a long term, a long range vision of for Bismarck baseball boosters. If we could get a training facility here.

00:51:32,800	I would love to have one of Bismarck baseball booster’s primary functions is to raise money to buy down access so that kids can go there and hit and field and do whatever for little or nothing. That’s, that’s a That’s her dream. Comm. Jeske, President Gilbertson, Steve, thank you again for coming here. So I have a couple of questions, um.

00:52:00,900	So it sounds like your expectation for the Park district is potentially $0 and I will say to me that’s incredibly attractive because we have so many things, um, that we need to accomplish as a district, so we have water pool, um, which is in need of a total revamp. I’d love to see a splash pad down south, um, so for the kids in those areas, they can access um water when it’s 105.

00:52:20,370	Degrees out in North Dakota or here in Bismarck. My other question is you talk about an indoor training facility. Is it specifically to baseball or will there be other sports that can train there and then my question becomes if this, because this is still a park district property, would we have the opportunity to lease out that space or is it

00:52:39,170	specifically the larks and the same with the kitchen, because again, it’s Park district property and it’d be owned by the Park district even though the money is raised. So could people come in and use the Commercial kitchen for. Cooking classes and other things like that.

00:52:57,670	Just I’m I’m getting a little far into the weeds here, but things I want you to think about and things we need to consider is, you know, this, this isn’t. The larks the Bismarck Park district’s facility. Comm. Jesske, that’s incredibly fair question. I don’t have any issue with that at all, and I agree with you.

00:53:17,930	That would be dependent on whatever your use agreement is that you’d strike with the larks. I mean, if, if they would pay enough to have. Their own access to it and that type of thing. I mean, that’s a negotiating point for you and for executive Director Clipfel, I would imagine.

00:53:37,830	But If there are times that other groups can use it, I would love that, and I do not expect the training facility to be um larks dependent. I, I really want our kids to be able to use that. So I’d imagine there’s some level of, again, whatever the arrangement is, maybe the larks use it during game day and in specific times, but I want that to be open.

00:53:56,330	I personally, that’s my feeling. I want it to be open for kids to be able to access and use it, and we need indoor training facilities. I I wouldn’t see any reason why we couldn’t use it for fast pitch softball.

00:54:12,430	You know, And I’m wondering about soccer and other sports like that because I’m, I’m at the dome in the in the winter time and, and I’ll tell you I’m trying to hit balls and there’s Kids, um, playing soccer and there’s, um, kids hitting baseball, so and there’s birthday parties that are going on.

00:54:29,300	So I just think there’s an opportunity here to really utilize something like this, and to me it makes it far more attractive than it just being. One person’s entity, um, I had one other question here too, and I’m I have never toured the locker rooms, so I’ve been in the women’s restroom and that’s been about the extent of my tour and I’m wondering if as a park district

00:54:48,600	we could potentially have a tour, this is my question to executive Director Cliffful, is there a possibility for us to tour if we want to because like I said, I’ve never been in the locker rooms before and I think it would broaden my horizons, uh, President Zimmerman and Comm.. Comm.

00:55:05,300	Jesske would be happy to take all the commissioners or anyone that would want to go, and we could show them the current locker room and concessions facilities that are down there that uh Steve is, is looking to enhance or make better at that ballpark and just kind of lay out the whole planet how it would kind of flow through the facility.

00:55:18,570	Thank you. Comm. Redman, thank you, President Zimmerman, and just to kind of follow up to what Comm. Jesske was talking about, um, and backing up a little bit.

00:55:35,370	First of all, I, I love that you want to make a facility better and and any of our partners that want to and that you want to broaden it and, and expand it to other um Public use. So thank you for that. And I just wanted again to, to, to um reiterate what Comm. Jesske said is that when you look at the Park District strategic plan, um, there’s no mention of gosh, we really need to improve the ballpark. And as Comm.

00:55:54,470	Jesske said, we talk about, um, the Water pool we talk about um. Capitol racket and we talk about the aquatic center, so just so you know that there are other needs in the community as well, but we hear what you’re saying and that you want to make something better and that you’re willing to go do that and you’re asking

00:56:09,670	for staff just to help you create those materials and you need to do that in order to to go and ask for money to have that. So that, yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s. Wonderful that you want to do that and um.

00:56:22,730	I’d be happy to make that motion if we’re ready we’re done with the discussion to allow you to do that, but we have a big district with a lot of needs so I appreciate your, um your energy and your willingness to do that and to keep us informed along the way, so. Other questions. Comm. Zimmerman, thank you. Dr. Choppy, thank you again for coming.

00:56:39,930	I, I did tour the locker rooms. Um, I hadn’t been in there before. Uh, one of the things that I thought when I was walking through it was, um, and, and when Dr.

00:56:56,730	Fastnak was here, we have to do safe sport training, um, you know, to be a coach, and there seemed to be, if we’ve kids in there or there’s stressing issues and stuff like that, to me it seems like the locker rooms don’t fit safe sports for youth, um. Just in in that regard.

00:57:13,930	So again, I appreciate you coming and saying, hey, we want to see what’s out there, go on a fact finding mission, um, what’s the appetite, um, to do this at, at the ballpark. My question is, um, let’s say you get halfway there. Is there kind of, there are a few things on here that you think you could do, you know, as a.

00:57:33,600	phase, if this is phase 3, 3A and 3B, is there a real, um, this is, this is the absolute thing that we’ve got to do right away if we can raise $80. Thank you, Comm. Herzog. I, I do think that it, it’s potential, there’s a potential there to be. You have a step down or a phase on it, um, I, I will respectfully disagree that the locker room portion is not a need.

00:57:56,100	It’s, it’s a need that the currently high school teams, um, collegiate teams, um, Northwood’s opposing teams, they’re changing in their dugout. That’s where they’re changing. And so if, if anyone’s there early, that’s, that’s where they change. They’ll change their behind. It’s the bus, whatever it is. There’s, there’s no place for a visiting team there.

00:58:21,000	Um, so I do think that at least that part to me, that’s a need, that’s a need, um, the training facility, it sure would be nice. I, I know when we did the, the, um, The questionnaires and asking the public of what what park and rec would like to see. I think one of the number one things was indoor training facilities for winter use.

00:58:42,900	And so this would this would answer some of that question. So I do, I do feel that it could be priority, but with total respect to water pool and other projects. I know that there’s a line. I get that.

00:59:00,900	So, um, I, I have total respect for that and we aren’t trying to do a swim move past any of them. We, we feel that those are very important projects as well, but I, I also feel that. We, we have a pretty legitimate project and it’s in fact a very legitimate project and hopefully we can raise enough to like I said, we can have it be an easy decision.

00:59:19,570	I mean, I would expect some level of commitment from Perk and Rec on that, but that by the time we get there, I don’t think this is happening next spring. It’s gonna, this is gonna take some work. Uh, our capital campaign that year is, is you know well know Comm.

00:59:36,470	Redmond, we were, we hammered away every Tuesday for a year and a half or 2 years. So it it’s, we know it’s a grind. So there’s. I feel that there’s time to still get some of those other key projects done and lined up. But the more we can raise, the easier decision is later. As to which you can commit.

00:59:54,370	Thank you, Comm., I’ve seen a couple of lights on. Any other questions? We have a motion then Comm. Redman. Yes, I would move that um Bismarck Parks and Recreation support Bismarck baseball boosters in phase 3 of their proposed improvements at the Bismarck Municipal Park and Dakota Community Bank and Trust Field. I’d second that motion.

01:00:20,330	Any further discussion? If not, Julie, if you’ll call the roll please, Comm. Gilbertson. Herzog, yes. Redman, I. Jesske President Zimmerman. President Zimmerman met Comm. when maybe you could come back and just give us an update. Do you feel like there’s a time frame that we could hear how, how it’s going? I’d love to do that.

01:00:45,830	I would, I would like to think that sometime next spring, we could have an update on that. That seems reasonable. And again, on behalf of the baseball community, I want to thank you for what you’ve already done.

01:01:02,130	I don’t want to make any light of that that it’s been tremendous what was done with the main portion of municipal ballpark with Tatley Fields. The Shields complex. Baseball is on the hop right now and I’m telling you we have, I think we had much thanks to several things, um, the larks coming to town. A great baseball awareness at the uh you, Mary is on the rise. Um, BSC has had some good baseball and.

01:01:23,000	Uh, the BYB program is rocking right now. I think they have. 12 1300 kids in there. It is on the go. So we’re, we’re excited. We, and we’re thankful for what you’ve given us so far. So thank you for that. Thank you, Dr.

01:01:43,100	Chuppy, and I appreciate your time this evening to present to the board, and we look forward to Hearing good things. You’re welcome. Thank you all. Thank you. All right, commissioners, uh, item 8. Is the consent agenda, a variety of items have been placed on the consent agenda. The consent agenda can be approved with one motion or an item or items can be removed for additional discussion and separate action.

01:02:08,400	Staff recommends approval of the following items consideration of July 25 and August 5, 2024 board meeting minutes. The minutes are included for your consideration. Request board consideration of concession, extension, and addendum facilities and programs Director Mike. has provided a memo with the proposed addendum for consideration. Authorization to call for bids for municipal country club operation.

01:02:38,470	Staff request board authorization to call for bids for the municipal country club operation. The current agreement is set to expire September 30th of 2025, and finally board acceptance of the Hell Simon’s estate gift and referred to the memo provided in your board packet. What is the board’s wishes, thank you, Zimmerman. I’ll make a motion that we.

01:03:03,470	the consent agenda as presented, and I would really like to extend a sincere appreciation to, um, Hell Simons and the estate gift that has been given to the Park district. Very generous. They’re second to the motion. 2. Seconded by Comm. Gilbertson. Any further discussion? If not, Julie, if you’ll call the roll please, Comm. Gilbertson.

01:03:32,430	Herzog, yes, Redman I Jesske President Zimmerman. Item 9 is approval of the bill, so 2. Motion made in 2 for approval of the bills. Any further discussion? Julie, if you’ll call the roll please, Comm. Gilbertson. Herzog, Redman, I. Duke, President Zimmerman.

01:04:02,530	That concludes this meeting of the Bismarckboard of Park commissioners, the next regularly scheduled board meeting is September 19th at 5:15 p.m. in the one and only Tom Baker meeting room. Meeting