00:00:29,500	There a motion to approve. We’ll make that motion. Is there a second. second. On fever say aye. Hi. Hi, hi. Uh, motion carries. Thank you. We’ll move on to the regular agenda, beginning with the financial statements. That you have in your packets. Um Jeremy is out of town today. But we’re well represented by his staff.

00:00:53,030	If there’s anything unusual or extraordinary you want to point out, Dennis, or? Uh, uh, President Um, we have no unusual expenses to report. Now the net income is on track for budget and our reserve balance is $3170,455.63. OK, thank you for that. Questions. Anybody have questions of staff or management, I should say.

00:01:25,670	If not, we would entertain a motion to approve the financials for me. And is there a second for that motion? I’ll second. Any further discussion, hearing none, call a roll, please, Sue. John, Josh. Todd. Yes. Jim, yes, that motion carries item 3 on the agenda are parquet, repairs project.

00:01:47,630	And RSI change order, and I think we have a representative from CW Structural here, Derek. Um I guess everybody got an email from Jeremy. Earlier this week or late last week with the Kind of a surprise change order that we were not expecting.

00:02:09,500	Um And I think we invited Derek here to explain to us, I guess the background is typically Um, our consultants, we rely on our consultants to advise us. Um, about the contracts and Um, and of course, in the instance of repairing a ramp, uh, we need to have it open, especially the the uh arcade wrap, which only has one way in and out, um, it needs to be open.

00:02:30,200	During business hours and we learned that the low bidder did not include That in their bid So I guess with that we’d asked Derek to come and maybe explain to us how that happened.

00:02:52,170	Yeah, uh, good morning, everybody, um, so basically what happened or the explanation is when Walker’s drawings, when we put out the, the, the drawings for bid, um. The working hours were explained to be, um, basically 8 to 5 like daytime hours that from there and trying to get all the contractors to bid apples to apples because it’s difficult to know how they would want to work or how they would phase things, um, and how the, the parking authority

00:03:10,370	might wanna manage the ramp during construction, um, so they basically bid bid, uh, working hours, daytime hours, and if they need to coordinate any off hours or weekend hours, night hours, um, with the owner.

00:03:28,970	Um, they can do that, and that’s basically what this, this change order is entailing is we walk the site during the, the preconstruction meeting talked mainly about the um The, as was mentioned, the entrance to the ramp, it’s very difficult to do work on the entrance without having to close down the entire ramp, so, um, we discussed how they could.

00:03:50,270	Um, phase that and uh they would likely have to do some weekend, um, uh, Hours and maybe I don’t know if they’re planning night hours mainly, mainly off hours and, and, uh, weekend. To, uh, to do that work to minimize disruption to the ramp, so essentially what, what can be compared is, um, the time it would take for them to To either shut the ramp down during the day, and that would

00:04:10,200	have an expense to the owner, uh, versus there’s there, um, change order they submitted for doing work. Um, on the weekend. If that makes any sense. Um, questions of Derek from CW Structural. Anyone have questions? Um, historically when we’ve done, which we do on a regular basis, repairs on the parquet.

00:04:35,770	Has it always been handled that way, um, do the, do the contractors not include in their normally include or be instructed to include provisions for closing. Or for working late hours or working in the night or Well, in the in the past we have done some night work and, and there are pros and cons to doing that, you know, disruptions and

00:04:53,800	things to to neighbors, um. We haven’t really Dictated too much about how they do it or when they do it. We, we have done some night work in, in particular on the lower level when it would disrupt the clinic, um, in this case, we felt that it wasn’t necessary because we’re up at a higher

00:05:09,400	level. We’re not really disrupting tenants and there’s no safety concerns or anything like that, so it was left more, um, for the, for the contractor to decide how they thought they could best handle it, you know, there’s different materials they can use to repair at different times.

00:05:24,970	They’re they all have their different methods that they think they might be able to achieve the end goal. And one of the questions I was asked, Derek was were all of the contractors uh aware of this in the bid? I mean it was a level playing field a level playing field in the general notes about the working hours, and if they wanted to deviate with that,

00:05:40,270	they’d have to. Coordinate that. OK. Other questions of Derek, anyone? Um For some reason I didn’t get that in my packet. So Uh, we were being asked today to approve a change order. In the gross amount of Have it here. dentist, do you have that? It looks $55,800. In the email, sorry.

00:06:20,270	Change order, The good news is we’re still, if you’re going to call it good news, we’re still 5000 or $60,000 below the next highest bid. So we’re not going over, but It was a bit of a surprise. So that would be our, uh our action today would be to approve the change order for. Or RSI. Restoration Systems Inc.

00:06:41,130	What are your wishes, Mr. Chair. Derek is so. we’re saying is the other bidders. had All this contemplated in their bid, uh, that I’m not clear about, um, I have to discuss that with Jeremy if they did or not.

00:07:06,300	Um Yeah, I’m not clear on what what they assumed for for work your work hours, but for the construction documents, they should have assumed. Um, daytime working hours as well. That’s what I would say. So trying to keep it a level playing field, you wouldn’t want to just go out on your own and assume that you have to do all these night hours.

00:07:20,670	And that’s kind of the difference you’re trying to get apples to apples on the bids. But yeah, Jeremy would have to verify that. Jeremy’s in Boston. Dad. So is there anything legally? You know, they bit it. to be. They did it. Legally can we allow them to I mean, we could change it, but we open up a can of worms.

00:07:50,670	I mean I’m not an attorney, so. I can’t speak to the legal. Issues I would assume if All parties had the same construction documents that they should have bid based on those construction documents and if there’s a change order, they would all, in theory had the same change order.

00:08:11,030	I will tell you from my perspective if there were, if this were the city commission, I’d have a real hard time. Not telling them that they needed to be off hours on this because of the disruption to business and But Well, I think that’s something we all assumed from the past based on past experience I I, I suspect you don’t have an issue. legally, but I don’t know that.

00:08:33,270	I would agree with the mayor. I mean, the, uh, It raises the total project cost of $304,000. which we’ve already approved. Obviously 245,000. So Um, what’s the status? Are they ready to get started like next week? Uh, yes, they’re planning on mobilizing on June 16th, so they’re, they’re, um, planning on being on site and I believe

00:08:59,400	within like a week they’re gonna start construction. OK. Um, I’m inclined to agree with the Mayor. I don’t. The city attorney isn’t here, obviously, but uh, We previously approved the contract. Not knowing that it didn’t include Overtime or extra costs for, you know, weekends and nights and. Less disruption to the levels.

00:09:31,130	Correct, significantly below the other bid, more than 10%. So. What are your wishes? Don’t all talk at once, so. I’ll move to approve the change order as presented. Josh moves to approve it. Is there a second? Yeah, I’ll second it. Seconded by John. Any further discussion? Hearing none call the roll, please. John? Yes. Josh? Yes. Todd? Yes. Jim.

00:10:07,870	Yes, that motion carries. Thanks, Derek for appearing. Thank you. And the explanation. We appreciate it. We’ll move on to more fun stuff. Item 4 on the agenda, just a little bit of background, the item is Re review general new ramp picture renderings concepts. If you recall at the last meeting and the last couple of meetings we’ve talked.

00:10:26,400	There’s a working group that includes the mayor and the city administrator and Kate from the Downtowners and others and We meet on a semi-regular basis along with representatives of the private sector, the health medical community, large tenants of downtown, as we all know, there continues to be and has been a a parking problem by

00:10:49,430	problem I mean we don’t have sufficient off-street parking spaces. For the number of employees and guests that come downtown and it’s been the case for years. So we’re trying to find uh Uh, space that we could uh provide another off-street parking structure for 40 500 cars or more.

00:11:10,200	And to that end, at the last meeting we authorized Jeremy to approach uh some design firms in town to see if they would provide some generic renderings. And this is basically for the audience, the 2 or 3 people at home that are watching this. Um, and we did get some nice renderings which we’re going to look at right now. Um.

00:11:27,530	We’re going to ask Jenny to come up to the podium. And fire up the the elbow. So we can all see what was presented. Again, they’re generic. We didn’t identify a specific site. Some of the uh the folks that submitted indicated. Or suggested sites that would seem to work. which we appreciate.

00:11:55,570	The first one there is from J2 architects, and again it’s not on any specific site. Um, that I believe most of these would be for 500 car. facility Again, for some reason I don’t have those in my packet or I forgot to bring them, so.

00:12:16,000	Um And just a little bit of background J2 is actually the uh architectural firm that designed the 6th Street ramp, the last ramp that the city built. 1011 years ago, um. It’s all. That’s who that is. Man, we’ve gone to the next one, Jenny. Yeah, and that one is from Can you see it, Jenny? Is that also J2? I think it is, right? OK. And that’s a larger ramp.

00:12:45,900	With a capacity of up to 1000 cars. Um, as you can see, if you start going That size, you’re going to have a large structure no matter where you put it, I guess. And the alternative of course is to go higher with multiple stories above 4 or 5 stories above grade, and that gets to be A concern visually.

00:13:06,770	But again, this is what we asked him to show us. Different concepts from different folks. All right, and this one is from We uh Is this GLGs? OK. Oh, I see it now. So, this is a JLG architects. rendering of a potential 500 space ramp.

00:13:33,400	Uh, we asked them or suggested that any ramp would have active ground floor at least around the perimeter of the structure for Retail office regular use other than just uh bumpers. So they kept, they kept that in mind. Um As we go forward in our growing downtown, we want to make sure that we have an active and attractive Uh street Escape in street front. Or storefronts.

00:13:59,070	For these buildings Was there, are you going to back up Jenny weren’t there a couple before this? you know Oh, that’s the G2 again. I thought I thought you flipped through, maybe, OK, there’s a couple more after this, right? OK.

00:14:18,600	Comments on any of these as we go, anybody? We can have questions, but there’s nobody here to answer them, so. What’s on the next slide? OK, now this is still JLG, no, this is Endeavor. OK. So, This is a 1000 car ramp. Between two imaginary white buildings. Um, next one. And these folks provided comments, the pros and cons on theirs. And Do you have that or no? Oh, OK. All right, good.

00:15:03,530	So we’re still with Endeavor North. OK. All conceptual, but OK, here we go. Endeavor did uh. Provide an aerial view of blocks downtown and where these potential ramps could be located with Their comments or suggestions or pluses and minuses of uh. Of each one And Starting with that one. Help me out here.

00:15:39,270	Where are we? You in my Jason was going to do it, but he ducked out at the last minute. No, he’s got a very important meeting. That’s fine. Can I borrow those, Todd? I don’t because I can’t read the screen from here. All right. And then I can keep track. baby. Oh, you don’t have the aerials. So OK.

00:16:09,730	be Yeah, I’m trying to figure it out too. Sure. Or or or Jenny. Yeah You’re skilled at this. Chair, members, um, this one is scenario 1A. It’s in the southwest quadrant of the intersection of Avenue A and 5th Street, um, property owner is Burlee County, uh, would have a capacity of 500 spaces.

00:16:40,130	Pros, it’s a large site provides opportunity for an efficient wrap layout. There’s potential for linear parcel walk-up residential. Potential also on the also and as well as first floor retail, um, and there would be potential for entry in the alley.

00:17:02,070	The cons are that 5th Street entry is close to 5th and Rosser intersection, the alleyway electrical would be impacted during construction and limited options for residential and retail exist. OK, thanks, Jenny. So that site, just so everybody understands that would be the county surface parking lot. Kitty Corner from the library in the upper right hand corner there, so. All right. Appreciate that. And Is that the same? No. It is.

00:17:24,570	It is the same, OK. Yep. Point of view. And that one. All right. This one is scenario 1B. It is also at the corner of 8 and 5th, just a different building layout and configuration West instead of a capacity of roughly 500 spaces, again, pros large site provides an opportunity for efficient ramp layout, uh, potential for a

00:17:53,270	linear parcel for walk-up residential first floor retail, um. Well separated mid block entry and exit and minimizes the ramp street presence cons are the Alloway E electrical would be impacted during construction. There are multiple landowners.

00:18:17,330	It would be Burley County benchmark Brera as the landowners and the building at the corner of 4th and Avenue A would need to be demoed as well. OK. Very good. And then is there an uh exploded view of it there, OK. Comments or questions as we go. Anything? Anybody good? OK, the next one. Next one is in the northeast quadrant of 5th and Rosser, um, property owners are Wells Fargo is Wells Fargo, um.

00:18:41,870	Capacity is 500, um, Pros are good street frontage on Rosser cons there’s more cons than pros on this one site length limits potential ramp layouts, limited potential for retail capacity of ramp is limited due to the length and potentially need to integrate a teller window.

00:19:03,130	OK, so again, so everybody understands that’s where the present Wells Fargo drive-up facility is at 5th and Rosser. And across the street to the west would be the vacant county lot that was one of the earlier sites, OK. All right. They have a, an elevation. OK.

00:19:27,730	This one is again at the corner of 8 and 4th, just the between 3rd and 4th Street on the south side of Avenue A. Oer is MDU in Gate City Bank, um, Pros are, it’s a large site provides opportunity for efficient ramp layout, potential for linear parcel for walk-up residential and retail on the first floor. It’s well separated, mid-block entry and exit, and it minimizes the ramp street presence.

00:19:49,130	Cons are that alleyway electrical would be impacted during construction there are again multiple lands. donors, and we would need to integrate a teller window. OK. And so, again, for everybody looking, that’s located between the Rivera Bank. To the north and uh To the southwest would be Gardner’s Shoe Hospital, right, on that block, so. There you go.

00:20:14,200	And that one would not require the demolition of any existing buildings, right? I don’t think. Because the parking authority owns and operates the 3rd and Rosser lot today, so. OK. Comments, questions, anybody? Next This one again is along the south side.

00:20:39,770	This one’s along the south side of Roster between 3rd and 4th Street, um, there is good street frontage, um, that is the pro cons or the site length limits potential ramp layouts, limited potential for retail capacity of the ramp again is limited due to the length alleyway electrical would be impacted during construction.

00:20:59,100	There are multiple landowners, City of Bismarck and Bravera Bank and would need to integrate a teller window, entry and exit would be on Rosser as well, so that is on the current. surface lot that we operate Kitty Corner from the post office, the federal building. We’ve looked at that site many times over the years.

00:21:14,700	Um, without disrupting the alley, it’s just, it’s too small, and this one you bridge over the alley up to the Rivera Bank. Adds more space, but probably a lot more cost. Uh, probably don’t get as much bang for your buck there, but They have an elevation next on that one too. That would look So we’re looking towards the southeast at this point, right? Yep. Gates said he would be on the lower left.

00:21:40,200	OK, I think is there one more? Yeah, a couple more. Oh, yeah. Um, scenario 5 is located just across the street from the library on the east side of 6th Street just along the south side of Avenue A, I believe, um, the owners are Sanford, um, it’s a large ramp, um, large site provides opportunity for efficient wrap layout,

00:22:00,500	potential for a linear parcel lockup residential well separated mid-block entry and exit, grades allow for multiple level access points and it minimizes the ramps. presence. Cons are primarily serves one main user, Sanford may have plans for this property. OK. What was the capacity on that one? The number of cars or spaces. They have it.

00:22:28,270	I think they have 1000 plus. Up to 1000. Thanks. Loverly Scenario 6 is along the east side of 7th Street, north of Rosser Avenue, um, the property owners are Sanford again.

00:23:04,000	This pro is it’s a large site provides an opportunity for that efficient ramp layout, potential for development on the south side, grades allow for multiple level access points cons again primarily serves one main user, Stanford may have plans for this property, and it would have a roster entry and exit. So this would be on the same block as the cancer center. So everybody knows. Right Across the street from the Center for Family, UND Center for Family Medicine. Sandford. OK.

00:23:33,800	There’s one more. 2 more. Sure, this is an alternative to the site relatively in the same location, just a different configuration. Again, the property owner is Sanford, um, Prose would be a large site provides opportunity for that efficient ramp layout, potential for development on the south side of the property, um, may serve Saint Alexis and

00:23:56,470	Essentia, um, Cons are Stanford is the property owner, um, and they may have additional plans or other plans for this property. Scenario 7, This property is located on the along the north side of East Fair Avenue between 7th and 9th. Excuse me, so St.

00:24:28,370	Mary’s is to the south and Saint Mary’s Grade School is also to the south, Saint Alexis to the east and Sanford to the west, um. Property owner is Saint Alexis and Stanford. Um, it’s a large site provides an opportunity for efficient.

00:24:51,270	Framp layout potential for development on the east or west sides of the building, Central Med location it has easy access from 7th and 9th potentials for skyway to connect both medical centers and could free up land being used for parking for development. Cons are there are multiple property owners. Um, this one is similar to the concept be rendering. OK. That would be a possible bridge between the two large hospitals.

00:25:15,970	A concept that’s been kicked around since 2006, 2010, there was, there were plans drawn for 1000 car ramp in that location. Never got off the ground, obviously. Um Questions or comments on that one. The, uh, the, the working group has had Uh conversations with representatives of both the medical centers to try and gauge their interest in participating. So we’ll continue working on that, um. one of them.

00:25:41,930	One of them is lukewarm, for sure, but. Yep. But Parking world, things take time. Rome wasn’t built in a day, so. We never give up. Yeah. Yeah, I think you’re right on the cool part. Um, all right. Was that the last one, Jenny? I believe so. This one’s just a different view of the building that we looked at previously.

00:26:05,600	Are you having fun yet? You know, I wasn’t prepared, but hopefully I’m winging it, darn is cool and you’re right. Keep at it. Thanks for doing that because it’s really hard to read the, the fine print, but Um We would express our appreciation for the three firms that that did this.

00:26:23,230	They’d received a very small stipend for their time. Um, and they’re Their expertise and their vision, um, the next step, I think, would be that we’ll take these back to that working group and talk about the different locations again. Pros and cons, um, Try and figure out a path forward for the next ramp or ramps, plural.

00:26:46,870	Um, because again, the problem isn’t going to go away. And I think it’s we’re expected to do something about it, so. Any questions? Of the authority members at all on the process or where we’re at. OK. Thanks, Jenny. Thank you so much. Mary, do you have anything you want to add on that topic? Um, OK.

00:27:10,400	Hopefully, maybe by the next meeting we’ll see. We move on to other business. Kate, did you have anything you want to report from the Downtowners or? Oh, Christianson authority members, um, just wanted to add, I think we’re meeting, what day is it Thursday, tomorrow, I think, and to kind of go over some of this as well, um, it

00:27:32,130	was interesting to see the 7th or the different locations. Obviously we don’t have site control over most of those, but or the city doesn’t, but it’s interesting to see kind of how they fit in into those locations, but there’s probably one location that’s Uh, kind of standing above the other’s bubble, we’ll keep rolling

00:27:50,300	there. Um, I did want to mention that, uh, we had a good meeting with the folks at the, uh, Depot events. They’re going to try and do some, uh, at least once a month if not more events there, um, Johnny Holmes is going to be there for the McQuaid anniversary, so I expect there’ll be some Folks

00:28:07,370	parking down there for from aquas as, as things progress there. So, um, that’s 2 weekends from now, right? To the end of June, right? To the end of June, yeah. OK right? To the end of June,. Um, so that’s good.

00:28:23,800	I think you’re going to see more people at the 3rd main ramp is probably the most accessible one to that location, um. And then, uh, You know, we’ve got street fair again, um, September. 12th and 13th, I believe, um, and Jeremy’s been nice enough to kind of work with us on the, uh, valet parking for the Stanford Clinic on Broadway.

00:28:45,270	So probably work with him on that, but nothing else too crazy. I’ll see you, some of you folks tomorrow, um, just want to say thanks to, to Jim and the Mayor and Jeremy and everyone for continuing to have those conversations about the ramp and where.

00:28:59,830	I think we’re kind of in constant communication about what’s going on and, and what we can do there. So thank you guys so much Kate. Thank you. Thank you. And I would also reiterate thanks to J, JLG, and Endeavor North Architects. For the time and effort that they all put into that. Helping us visualize how this could. could or could not work, so. Very nice. They’re good public. Citizens, so they’re all citizens too.

00:29:24,100	Other business for the good of the order? Anybody have anything today? If not, and if there’s no objection, we stand