00:00:04,700	Javelin. To wake him up. It’s early in the morning, yeah. Well, let’s stand and let’s pray, and then we’ll do the pledge of allegiance. Father God, we just, uh, come before you here this morning. This is early, this is uh gonna be uh.

00:00:34,130	Two days of just full of all kinds of things, and I pray that you just give us the energy to get through these things, especially the important things that Need to be on, uh, uh, all the, all our minds, and I pray God that you be with these uh commissioners as they go through this and especially all these that That have uh, uh, their, uh, their

00:00:51,300	moments to be able to talk about the budget lines and uh, I pray you, uh, just give us a, a level heads and everything, and, uh, God, I thank you for uh those first responders out there that are protecting us while we’re in here, uh, dealing with, uh, all these, uh, things and.

00:01:08,900	Um, continue to, uh, bless us with that rain, we thank you for last night and uh uh May everything be safe in the county. We’ll do this all in your son’s name, Jesus. Amen. Pledge allegiance to the flag.

00:01:31,300	of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you thank you I appreciate it. You call the July 21st, 2025 meeting of the Burley County Park order. First item is roll call of members. Comm Woodcock. Here. Comm Munsen. Here. Comm Bakken. Comm Schwab, Comm Baim. Comm Hermann.

00:02:08,570	OK, we do have a quorum, a little just barely, um, Next item is approval of the agenda. Move to approve. Motion second to approve the agenda. Any further discussion? Call the room. Uh, uh, there was no second. Second, sorry, I thought, thought it was. OK. Motion to second, any further discussion? K Comm Munsen. Yes. Comm Schwab. Yes. Comm Woodcox. Yes. Chair Binitner.

00:02:36,870	Yes, motion carries consideration of July 7th, 2025 meeting minutes. Moved to approve. Second, motion a 2nd to approve the meeting minutes. Any further discussion? Caro. Comm Schwab? Yes. Comm Woodcox? Yes, Comm Munsen, Chair Binner. Yes, motion carries.

00:02:58,200	Comm Munsen, concrete bids for Steel boat ramp and update on placement of the ADA wheelchair and while I was bloating. We’ll ask Dave to come on up and present the bids. Good morning, Chair Bittner and Commissioners, um. Round 2 of Of the uh concrete quotes for up at Steckel, uh, much more successful this time in in uh soliciting some quotes from some contractors.

00:03:26,530	We received 3 quotes, uh, when we opened this last time, the low Responsive quota was from Access Concrete in the amount of $25,490. Much more within range of what we’re expecting it to be, um, and, uh, would recommend that we move forward. If there’s any questions, I can try to answer them. Mr.

00:03:50,600	Chair, I would move to approve the little bit of Axis concrete for 250,490. OK. We motion the second to approve. A further discussion. Look Fisher Wood Cox, Comm Munsen. Yes. Comm Woodcox. Yes, I’m sorry, Comm Schwab. Chair Bitner. Yes, motion curious. Thank you. Are you handling the next item? You might as well. I, I can. I certainly can.

00:04:20,670	Uh, in your packet is a proposed layout, if you remember last time we met, um, the discussion about the access ramp being added to knifel bolt landing. Uh, Comm Munsen and I met um out at at nightfall and walked out where we thought we could put one we’re working with um Houston Engineering on a layout and the layout in your packet.

00:04:44,530	Is what we think is the best location that would offer us some flexibility if there’s future development and, uh, get us some good stacking for access to that platform and uh hopefully move this thing forward and and we can get it constructed here quickly. Mr. Chair, if I can, Mr. Munsen.

00:05:06,970	Add to that a little bit. Uh, I had the architect or the engineer add in vehicle and boats just so we had an idea of Of the traffic that would go through there.

00:05:26,700	Our initial, uh, proposal and conversations with wheelchairs and walleyes is 42 handicap parking spots along with the flatwork, uh, sidewalk, getting up to the ramp. With an addition of proposal of two additional handicap if we need, we have the room for that.

00:05:47,670	Uh, the conversations with, uh, a couple of contractors, including one of the, uh, Rey Mix vendors, um, at this point, this is all still donated, uh, the I have a contractor lined up to do the actual flat work, the Ready Mix company is donating that, uh, so we keep moving forward with zero cost to Burleigh County.

00:06:07,300	Uh, as we grow, uh, we’ve also had conversations with electrical contractors, electrical vendors, uh, about getting wire, uh, electrical run from a current pole over to this area to then also have, uh, yard lights and so far as with those conversations, all of that has been donated as well. That’s good news, yeah, yeah. So, I don’t know if the commission would like to approve that, but if this is the layout that we are proposing.

00:06:26,400	And if you need a motion, I would move to approve. OK. I don’t think that’s required, but we’ll go with it. Yeah. Uh, motion a second to approve the location of that uh. Re Handicap. Right. A further discussion. Comm Munsen. Yes. Comm Schwab, Comm Woodcock, Chaman Bittner. Yes, curious.

00:06:52,230	Thank you one more if, if you. Go ahead, yeah, for the business. David just mentioned to me that the vault toilet is installed out at Steckel. So now with the improvement of this concrete, we should have that project cleaned up within the next 30 days.

00:07:09,800	I will give access concrete a call as soon as I’m, as soon as I leave here and let them know they’re free to move forward with the project and hopefully we can get them working on that concrete right away. Perfect.

00:07:21,730	Um, The only other thing to add is uh within that project we pulled out a couple of things that the contractor didn’t need to do, that the park district will take care of. We’re going to order the accessible.

00:07:38,530	Um, fire pit that is part of the project, the fire pit that’s there is not accessible, if you remember that the transition plan was to have an accessible fire pit, so we will order that the contractor, excuse me, will install that. So we need to make that order and then there are a few trees that we had planned on that plan to, to get installed.

00:07:55,130	We didn’t put that in the contractor, or in that contract, we figured we’d save some money for the county and take care of that ourselves, um, so minor things, but now that everything’s approved, we’ll take care of all. That as well and that’ll all get done. Thank you. Sounds good. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Any other business for the Burleigh County Park Board. none will Adjourn.

00:08:14,870	County Park Board and we’ll, um, call the Burley County Commission meeting on July 21st, 2025 to order. First item is roll call the members. Comm Woodcock. Here. Comm Munsen. Here. Comm Bakken. Comm Schwab, Chair Bittner here. Next is approval of the agenda, um, we’re going to Move at least one item, um, Comm Woodcock’s requested that Item number 16.

00:08:47,430	Which is uh Pron building murals, Aaron Barth, executive Director, Northern Plains Foundation that He’d be moved up to 9 o’clock, right? So, We’ll, um, we’ll make space available in the agenda. It’ll be out of order, but we’ll put him in when he gets here around 9.

00:09:12,470	Is that OK with everybody? And then, um, Um, there is a, There is a presentation by Comm Woodcoxx. Um And, uh We’re going to, we’re going to put that right after the consent agenda. That’s OK with you? You bet. OK. It’s the only changes I have. Does anybody else want anything moved or changed or anything. We prove with the amendments. Second, motion to approve of amendments. Any further discussion? Call the.

00:09:42,330	Uh, Comm Munsen, Comm Schwab. Yes. Comm Woodcock? Yes. Chair Bner. Yes. Next is consideration of July 7th, 2025 meeting minutes and bills, Commissioners, I had an opportunity to review the bills, although it was kind of in a hurry this morning. Um, I found them to be in order and would ask for a motion to approve. So.

00:10:03,730	Second, motion a second to approve the. Minutes and bills, any further discussion? Caro. Schwab? Yes. Comm Woodcock. Yes. Comm Munsen. Yes. Chair Bitner. Yes, motion carries. Next thing would be, um, your first run at this public comment.

00:10:26,200	We’re going to have, um, Uh, comments that are related to Burleig County that may not be on the agenda. Um, it is restricted to Burnley County residents and landowners, and it’s also needs to be in. Um, in sync with our public comment policies. Does anybody wish to speak to Burleig County, um, regarding public comment. Please state your name for the record, please. Good morning, Chair Bittner Commissioners, uh, B Strefel.

00:11:04,870	I’m a Burleigh County resident. I’m also planning and zoning Comm. And I would just like to speak briefly on item 9. I meant to have time to get you guys copies, but And I have visited with Marla. On this and it’s just basically a matter of grammar. I hope that this amendment passes today.

00:11:28,600	Um I am a little concerned about the very first sentence under section 31 where it says all persons, entities or organizations wishing to establish the use of agricultural recreation within Burley County must apply for and be granted a special use permit.

00:11:51,600	And I’m just wondering if the language should say must apply for and be considered for or something on that line. Um, my second concern was #2, under minimum requirements, it says outdoor lighting must be 5 ft from the adjacent adjacent properties. And uh Gosh, in my opinion, that’s just kind of picking for a fight.

00:12:15,000	I would like to see it say outdoor lighting must be a minimum of 5 ft from adjacent properties because otherwise they’re It’s saying they must have lighting 5 ft from adjacent properties. And then my last concern was, uh, number 8. It says limitations slash requirements as determined by the board of Burley County Commissioners for each special use permit. I think as should be R so that it actually forms a a sentence.

00:12:41,200	Otherwise, I think it’s a good amendment and I hope to see it go through. Thank you. OK. Thanks. Um, I want to point out that it, um, You can chastise you just a little bit there, um, the public comment portion is for things that are not on the agenda.

00:12:58,970	Um, this item is on the agenda for today. And you’re welcome to um. present again at that time too, OK? And that way it’s fresh when we’re. Right, right, because see the, the reason we’re doing that is because you made some very good points, but by the time we get there, since I wasn’t writing notes fast enough, I might not

00:13:16,030	have the. Um, you know, I might not have the ability to change it right then, so I’d encourage you to stick around. Any other public comment before we move on. She was hoping to leave. Yeah, well, I, I understand that, but that’s the.

00:13:36,870	Um OK, we’ll close public comment and move on to the consent agenda, Commissioners, anything you want to pull out of there for discussion or Move to approve. Take it, most of the second to approve the consent agenda. Any further discussion? Col rule. Comm Schwab. Yes. Comm Woodcox. Yes. Comm Munsen. Yes. Chair Bitner. Yes. Motion carries. Um, at this point, uh, Comm Woodcoxck has a presentation.

00:14:00,830	Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to have our sheriff step up for a brief, uh, Presentation. Com. Well, that was, yeah. These OK. This is a presentation for our sheriff, uh, it’s one of the great things that We get to do is, as Chair, as Comm and this is a 15-year award for 15 years of

00:14:34,930	solid service and also he was uh on KFYR. There’s a camera. Oh, OK. Yeah, it’s a wire and the host last week for a whole hour and it was everywhere. He’s got the gift of gab which was Commissioners and Here it is 15 years. Yeah Thank you, K K.

00:15:06,470	Congratulations to Sheriff Leeben. Thank you, Comm Woodcocks. Let’s see. He’s not here yet. We’re going to move ahead with Lewis and Clark Regional Development Council executive Director Brent Ekstrom. Update and county membership dues. route I don’t see Brent in the. Paul. That’s probably, OK. No. Erin, we had a conversation about you.

00:15:38,470	We were expecting you around 9 o’clock if you’d like, we’ll, uh, we can work in right now. Absolutely. Sure. Yeah. OK, um, Uh Aaron Vars of the, uh, The Northern Plains Heritage or Northern Plains Heritage Foundation. OK. Um, presentation, uh, regarding Comm Woodcock’s project. Thanks for showing up here. Absolutely. Thank you, uh, Chair Bittner and Commissioners for having me.

00:16:04,670	Is there an ability to I don’t want to start pulling levers and pushing buttons on the laptop here, but I have a short presentation with visuals if that’s possible.

00:16:22,800	We did, uh, I did mention the last meeting that we were going to look into having a, a mural put on the south side of the problem, life building for the 250th anniversary of the United States and the county was just a year ago and so is the city, so we’re working on having several entities involved, and Aaron is here to speak to, oh, here comes the sheriff.

00:16:41,600	Anyway, Erin is here to speak to that project and explain how it’s going to be done, and, uh, afterwards I’d like a consensus or a motion to approve moving forward. Aaron, you’re on. All right, scary, yeah. There you go. hearing. OK We’ll see what happens here. And if it, oh, looks like something’s going on here, OK. OK, we’re good.

00:17:27,430	Um, yeah, uh, Chair Bittner and Commissioners, thank you for having me, and it was a couple weeks ago. I’m gonna use broad brush stroke here rather than, uh, I’m a historian by training, so sometimes I have trouble with names and dates, right? So broad brush strokes here, right? Um, uh, Comm Woodcock, uh, I think had a conversation with

00:17:44,230	Chair Bittner about uh public mural process and big broad brush stroke, of course, next year we have America 250 and uh the 250. anniversary or celebration of the United States of America, so we’ve almost made it to 250 years, and these murals sometimes are help us incentivize us to,

00:18:02,700	let’s try for another 250 years after that, right? Um, but the, I’ll, I’ll get into my presentation here, um. The public mural process, these are simply northern Plains examples, um, and what I’ve just kind of outlined here in, in very Non-illustrative boring text is the public mural sequence, and

00:18:28,270	there’s two slides here, then after that there’ll be some visuals, but, uh, the part of the sequence, I believe that we’re in right now is identify the canvas and the canvas being potentially the south elevation of the Provident life building, which will be the new or is the new Burleigh County building.

00:18:46,970	So we’re in the scoping, they identify the canvas and seek permissions from organizations phase, um. And I can email this as a follow up to all commissioners as well, so you have it, have it in your files.

00:19:06,830	And then, of course, there’s labor and material cost estimates, then timelines, um, of course, the second point, Ways and means, secure funding commitments. We want to make sure we have permission that of whatever surface that we’re proposing to do this before we go and seek out the ways and means.

00:19:25,870	The fun part of this is gets to the 3rd bullet point, which is the community input sessions and Those community input sessions, I have it listed at one of the slides at the very end, but, you know, anywhere in the rural and the urban of Burleig County, uh, community input sessions can take place, and these sessions, they’re formally informal, right? So they uh are literally could be shop talks, it could

00:19:45,930	be, uh, you know, at a, an unincorporated township or a town, uh, it could, you know, we have a relationships established like in wing, but I know there’s, you know, Driscoll, there’s Moffatt, there’s Sterling, there’s, there’s, we’re countywide, right? So those conversations can happen in any one of those communities and those what’s

00:20:05,930	what’s set at those conversations and form basically the, the content of what the mural will be, and there are bumpered, of course, by in this case it would be how Burley County figures into, you know, this nation, right? The Uh, kind of a fancy phrase to use might be the cosmology of

00:20:21,400	nationhood. So how all of our own unique individual points contribute to this larger hole of the United States of America. Um, then from that, the final sketch of the mural is completed. Um, and then we get to the fun stuff, the mural fabrication.

00:20:42,130	So once the completion of the sketch, uh, the mural is outlined on a grid of 5 ft by 5 ft sheets of inert material, and so if you’re familiar with like Polytab or it’s almost like the house wrap that you use, um.

00:20:58,270	And then uh once that’s all sketched out, then those sheets, 5 by 5 sheets are brought out again to the community, and this could be in different urban and rural areas in Burle County.

00:21:16,400	And they do what’s called the underpainting, which is the uh primary and secondary colors are painted underneath before you do the overpainting and a lot of artists who are way smarter than I am have figured out that if you do this underpinning process, it preserves the overpaying color of the, the uh mural colors, so they, they’re more saturated, they pop more, uh, they last over time as well. Then it gets to the installation.

00:21:34,000	And because we can do this process or this process itself is, you can, it can take place, it doesn’t have to take place exactly on the surface in which it’s going on.

00:21:50,700	So throughout the winter, we’ve done this a couple of different times now throughout the winter, you create this mural on these 5 by 5 sheets and then when, you know, spring thaw and summer comes, boom, it goes up within a couple weeks, uh, and that’s the installation process, um. Once the murals installed, the master artists will come and they do the overpainting on the panels because it ties everything together.

00:22:12,470	And then, of course, uh, the understandable question is uh what about uh uh I’ll call it unlicensed uh public artist, which is graffiti. It’s been going on from the ancient Rome till the present, so, um, anti-graffiti coding is applied, and then the real fun part is the grand unveiling, and so the ribbon cutting in the past we’ve done ri ribbon cuttings with particular chambers of

00:22:32,800	commerce and that sort of thing, uh, in other cases we’ve had a meal or a potluck, but it, it brings people together to in, in this case, it would bring people together to consider what What has, you know, how Burley County has contributed to the nation’s story and uh figure in the present and also

00:22:50,400	where we’re going. Uh, you can’t, you don’t really know where you’re going until you have an understanding of your past, so. And I’ve got some examples here. So here’s before and after example on the left is the Bismarck Expressway pedestrian tunnel, uh, what we’ve unofficially called the Northern Plains nature tunnel, the before and after.

00:23:13,330	And then underneath the Interstate 94 bridge, the before and after, and the photo on the left is the grand unveiling where it did have a big community meal in front of the I-94 or Missouri River Heritage Mural.

00:23:35,830	And then there’s community, these, these paint parties, right? And so, uh, the expressway tunnel mural, we had all sorts of partners that lined up here. One of them was AARP. You can see it right there, a whole bunch of students at, I believe that was Good Shepherd Lutheran Church on a Wednesday evening. We did a community paint party and then there’s also mosaics.

00:23:53,030	Sometimes mosaics tie into the, these murals, so you have a couple different mediums that you’re using. Um The artists that coordinate the mosaics usually say they bring boxes of band-aids when they do the mosaic part because you’re broken glass and stuff. Here’s another community paint party. This was again for the uh expressway pedestrian tunnel mural.

00:24:17,070	Um, this is at the Bismarck Veterans Memorial Public Library. And then, uh, another one of our dis well, distant, I suppose that’s a relative term, but our distant partners is the Grafton, North Dakota Beautification Committee, and this is an example of in way northeastern part of the state, they created another a mural, uh, that they installed

00:24:35,000	on the outside, the north and the east elevation of the historic Carnegie Public Library and Uh, you can just see some of the visuals there. It’s these are massive things too. These are magnificent selfie spots, so. I believe I have one more slide after this. So here’s the proposed canvas.

00:24:56,370	We’re out there, uh. Measuring yesterday and it’s uh what we got for measurements is 60 ft. Wide and is it 6 or 7 stories? 6 stories, OK. And then community involvement, I added this is the last slide just to.

00:25:20,930	You know, this is uh Just to sort of scattershot of the various communities, it’s not by no means definitive, but just an idea how we can push this out to the entire county as well, so. Um That’s what I have. OK. Yeah. Can you, um, uh, Mr.

00:25:40,130	Chair, can you relay the Way you prepare the surface and so we don’t harm the surface and, and it can be removed down the road sometime if necessary, or whatever. Can you? Reiterate that.

00:26:01,600	Yeah, I can, I can get uh more technical details on that, on that process for how one might preserve exactly, right? These murals, they typically, uh, or they’ve seen the last 20 years. Um, and then, you know, it is, that is a good research question. What are we gonna do? If you don’t want the mural there anymore, right? So.

00:26:16,500	Can I provide more follow-up information that I’m trying to, trying to do my best to not speak of stuff that I don’t know about. Yeah. You got the floor, that, that would be all right. Um, we wouldn’t expect you to have every answer today, but one of the reason he’s mentioning it is because the state historical Society has made it very clear we can only do certain things in that building. OK.

00:26:30,400	Right? We can’t drill into the brick, can’t, you know, change, um, the historical. Features of the building. So if you were going to, for example, drill in, and I, and I’m real hesitant about that, but if you drill into just the grout that’s in between the bricks, then that would probably be OK with

00:26:47,470	historical society, not necessarily the best thing to do. Hopefully there’s options that don’t include A lot of holes in the exterior of the building. Right, yeah. Absolutely.

00:27:07,230	We, we have a relationship established with the state historic Preservation Office to and I’d be happy if, if the commission is OK with just starting a dialogue with, with those folks there as well. I’m OK with that, Comm. I think that’s a must. Yeah, yeah. Mr. Mr.

00:27:26,170	Chair, Comm, one of the things he mentioned was funding and this year we had a, a budgeted $5000 for an organization, and they didn’t request it, so we didn’t pay it, so, uh, I would like to use that $5000 as a. Just a buffer for money we might need to to have use of before the project had put up, I talk about a community dinner or potluck.

00:27:41,300	I, there’s so many things that we might run into some financing, but this is a minimum amount, and, uh, as far as I know, that’s, I shouldn’t say it, but that’s the only cost Verde County will have, but we’ll, we’ll determine that later on, but I would like to use that $5000 that was dedicated to community involvement, and this is certainly a community

00:27:58,130	involvement project. I’ll consider that a motion. Second, we’ll shoot a second to dedicate a 5000 from the unused source to this project for. Use the further discussion, uncal room. Munsen? Yes. Comm Schwab? Yes. Comm Woodcock. Yes. Chair Bitner. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you, Aaron, Chair and Commissioners. Thanks for coming in. Absolutely, yeah.

00:28:23,470	It’s great to be here. OK, County engineer Hall, you got Northridge Estate’s resolution of necessity and accepting plated right of way. Welcome, Marcus. Good morning, Comm. There are 22 items on the agenda. The first item is, uh, declaring a resolution of necessity.

00:28:54,470	This is for Northwards states, Hay Creek Township has requested thus to move forward the special assessment out in on North Ridge Eestates. Uh, that’s a little different than our normal process, our normal process, we get a petition and we follow through with the petition process. Uh, however, uh, from time to time we have done these, uh, as the direction of Hay Creek Townships.

00:29:13,670	So we put the, the plan together or not the plan together, the finance package together, engineering report that is included in your packet, um, to just let you know where we’re at with that.

00:29:29,230	Um, in this particular situation, I just want to point out Hay Creek Township is planning to set aside some of their money from their general fund to help buy down this particular special assessment district. So right now what we’re looking at, uh, for cost per individual is $4,663 per lot on that particular. special assessment district. At this point, um, all I’m asking for is to prove the resolution that’s in your packet.

00:29:53,130	That’s basically stating, um, declaring a resolution of necessity for this particular project, um, and then setting a public hearing date. I did uh state in the, that resolution, I was thinking August 18th would be the date we’d have the public hearing. I’d like to push that back to the next meeting.

00:30:08,670	So September 3rd is what I would prefer to have that on. Um, so that’s the only change in that resolution. That’s in your packet. I’m happy to answer any questions you may have. Comm, is there any questions? Comm Schwab? So you, shortly.

00:30:28,930	What do you want? Um, at this point, it, um, as you know, with special assessment District, we have about a 37 step process that we go through this Marcus. I’m going to use that for the motion, so, OK, the motion is that the county, the county accepts the engineering report and declares a resolution of necessity for North Ridge Estate’s subdivision, special assessment District and authorize the call of a public hearing for September 3rd of

00:30:56,200	2025 motion of the second. Any further discussion? Caro. Comm Schwab. Yes. Comm Woodcox. Yes. Comm Munsen, Chair Bitner. Yes. Motion carries. The next item I have is the acceptance of right away.

00:31:16,030	This is a process that we do is where we accept right away, uh, that is placed on a plat either from the city of Bismarck, City of Lincoln, or Burleigh County. This particular plot was, is going through the city of Bismarck’s process, uh, I believe they will accept this platin short order here. There’s some right away showing on it. It is included in your packet.

00:31:35,730	Um, so the Resolution that I’m looking forward is the county Board of Commissioners do hereby accept the right of way shown on the, on the vast subdivision. Platt Move to approve. Second, motion the 2nd to approve. Any further discussion? uncul. Comm Schwab? Yes. Comm Woodcox. Yeah, it’s Comm Munsen, Chair Bitner. Yes, motion. Thank you. Thank you, Mars.

00:32:06,600	Next is uh associate planner Marlon McMonagle, um, Plains Ridge subdivision amendments and to Articles 8 and 11. Welcome room. Mitch is on vacation. Yes, he’s out. So, um, the first thing I have is the Plains Ridge subdivision and zoning change.

00:32:35,400	It’s part of the Southwest corner of the southwest one quarter, section 24, Township 140 North Range 80 West, uh, it’s addressed as 11,000201 41st Street, and um the petitioner came to us asking to divide his 14 acres into two lots so he could sell one, and he asked for the zoning change was asked for before and the planning commission had never voted on that zoning change, so we ran it through with this one, and,

00:32:57,430	uh, the planning and zoning Commission approved the final plot and the zoning change with the Past recommendation to the board of Burleigh County Commissioners. Move to approve Second, motion is 2nd to approve any further discussion? Call the roll. Comm Woodcox. Yes, Comm Munsen. Yes. Comm Schwab. Yes. Chair Ber? Yes.

00:33:21,970	Motion carries. Next. OK my next item is amendment to the Burleigh County zoning ordinances to amend Article 8 and 11 to add agricultural recreation, um, agricultural recreation is used combining agricultural production with recreational uses that are common with and and ciliary to primary agricultural use and in conjunction with the single

00:33:52,400	family dwelling. The Burle County Planning and Zoning Commission. gave their final approval and recommendation of a due pass for the amendment, um, to the zoning ordinances, Article 8, Special uses, and Article 11, Agricultural zoning district to include agricultural recreation. The recommendation was passed with a 7 to 1 approval.

00:34:17,470	Um, so what we’re asking for today is approval. We also received on Sunday, um, a letter. From Jamie Feist regarding his property. Um, and his comments on the zoning ordinance, the amendments. And that was given to you this morning.

00:34:55,470	OK, Marla, did you, um, did you hear the comments earlier that that Do you have any, um, concerns? No, I can, um, make those changes that were suggested, um, on the final one because they’re just um Just warning, we’re not changing the substance of the ordinance, so I can make those changes if you agree.

00:35:17,400	Um, yeah, I, I think you could go ahead and make those changes, then just probably put it back on the agenda. You want it on the next agenda? Yeah, yeah, amendments made first, yeah. Yeah. So, you know OK.

00:35:35,930	Um, you should be able to review with her what, what she was interested in and, and hopefully I, I think, you know, come to some kind of a, a common ground on the language then. OK. I think she had good points. Absolutely. I’m not sure that, uh, You know, I, I did have some concern with that first in, in the minimum requirements that outdoor lighting fixtures. You know, so directly is visible above a height of 5 ft. I wasn’t real clear on that, you know, what.

00:35:57,330	That was um taken directly out of the Morton County. It’s one that they, um, suggested, um. And they wanted to, there’s um, they must have a special shielding.

00:36:18,670	So that that part I understand and I agree with that, but I’m just wondering if that’s the light has to be 5 ft above shining down or if it has to be. It looks Um. Like it says, you know, Direct light is visible above a height of 5 ft.

00:36:37,330	We can um change that, um, that’s put in so that they do have light on the property, especially if they have night events and at the height, visible above 5 ft, that. Keeps it out of your eyes.

00:36:53,970	is the way I understood it, um, when I talked to her, um, can we kind of clean that up just a little bit, uh, Yeah Because I, I understand you don’t want the like in your eyes. That’s why I was asking. OK. And, and we can change that to whatever changes you like. Mr. Chair. Comm Munsen as a whole, I appreciate this amendment and, and I’m supporting of it as soon as we get a little, the language cleared up, I think it’s a good. piece to move forward. Sure. OK.

00:37:15,370	We’ll look for that on the, on the next agenda. Anything else for planning? Nothing. OK, thanks, Marlon. You bet. Sheriff Lee and quarterly Report. Welcome back. Thank you. Good morning, Comm, Mr.

00:37:47,370	Chair, um, my plan was to, since this is budget day, my plan was to keep the jail report very short and uh I’m going to do that cause I see I left it on the printer before I came over here. So, but, um, I can’t tell you from memory, uh, the one main thing I wanted to get to you guys today was revenue continues to trend very positive at the jail.

00:38:07,200	Um, if you remember, revenues generated primarily from our contract prisoners, um, currently we are taking a lot of prisoners from the state and from the US Marshal, uh, actually this was thanks. I got that one, but, um, so the US marshals in the state are our big prisoner contracts.

00:38:29,470	Um, we currently just passed $2 million in revenue. So when you compare that to 2024, uh, we ended the year roughly about 2.6 million in revenue, so we’re trending very positive, I think at the last jail meeting and I presented to the commission, we’re looking at 3.6 million in revenue.

00:38:51,270	I think that is going to be a very conservative estimate, um, our numbers are showing probably pushing closer to that 4 million for the year. Uh, so the, um, the staffing still Continues to be an issue.

00:39:13,730	Um, really we’re limited on that, um, with our contracts because it’s not space, it’s truly comes down to how many staff do we have to work the facility and that dictates how many inmates we can have in there. Um, all the other programs are staying pretty stable, um, and it just really the the talk right now is on those contracts and staffing.

00:39:34,230	So if you have any specific questions, I would be glad to answer them. If not, I’ll shoot you in an email those numbers just so you have them. Um, as we go further in the budget, and I’ve been working with Lee. Pretty frequently as we talk about these numbers.

00:39:54,870	The Comm, do you have any specific questions for the sheriff at this point? I don’t have any questions. OK, thank you. OK, thank you. OK, next one’s on me, datacenter tour, um, after, after a previous meeting, I got an invitation from, Uh Dakota Carrier Network, Mr. Seth Mnndorfer offered to, um, provide a tour of the, Data center. And we wanted to make that tour available to commissioners.

00:40:32,230	I’m not sure how we do the public meeting thing and the notice and whatnot, but, um, if commissioners are interested in that, we should try to figure out a, a time, a number of staff, um, 3 planning director, HR director, and emergency manager would would like to at least have mentioned that they’d like to participate

00:40:53,600	in that tour as well. So Commissioners, that’s what that’s all about. So you’re looking for a date, are we, or. Yeah, we should probably work together with, we’ll just pick one of the.

00:41:13,970	One of the staff to kind of establish a date, um, if any, anybody want to volunteer for that? Mary’s volunteering to help coordinate a date and, because we obviously have to coordinate with the uh Dakota Carrier Network and, and the whole thing too. I’m sure it’s a secure facility and. He is up there every day, so, um, I don’t think there’s any motion required.

00:41:30,100	We’ll just, um, work to set that up and. And move forward, OK? Perfect. Thanks for volunteering, Mary. Next is Comm Bak and, um, will save that for An agenda item unless he shows up, we’ll put that on the agenda for the next meeting.

00:42:00,400	Uh, Chair, the next meeting will be after this meeting is scheduled to occur. What? Uh, the next county commission meeting is is scheduled after August 5th, I believe. OK. Oh yeah. Um Well then we’ll see uh. Well, we’ll see if he shows up here in and wants to uh. and then we’ll worry about it.

00:42:33,400	Auditor treasurer Swanskowski, North Dakota Association of County Committees and Burleigh County Housing Authority application. Uh, Chair and Commissioners, this was the, the, uh, the committee’s agenda item was requested by the commission to be placed on a later date.

00:42:53,200	I presented this here a few, uh, a few meetings ago, really, it was uh from the association of counties just seeing if any of the commissioners would be uh interested in serving on any of the individual committees that they have. OK, Commissioners, is there an interest in, in um, Um Throwing your name in for any of the committee. I’m not seeing any interest. Well, not quite right now. Yeah, well, busy, busy, right? Right. I’m not seeing any volunteers. OK.

00:43:24,070	Very good. And then the next one is, um, we did receive an application for the Burley County Housing Authority. Uh, there is a, uh, open position on there, one of the individuals on that board, uh, stepped down and we have an application, so I don’t know if you want me to wait, uh wait

00:43:41,230	for more applications or if you want to approve this individual applicant or would you wish to move forward. Let’s see, there’s, there’s one opening. Um-hum. Um, that just came open, right? He came open within the last couple months, yeah. Mr. Chair, uh, reading this application, I would be.

00:44:01,570	Eecstatic to have him on that board and would make the motion to accept it. Second. OK, motion in 2 to accept Lay Hoffer application beyond the exhibit, uh, Housing. Housing. Housing board. Any further discussion. Teen? Yes. Comm, uh, Schwab? No. Comm Woodcock? Yes. High Chair Binner. Um Yes Thank you. Mr.

00:44:40,030	Chair, if I can, er, I mean, Comm Munsen. Speaking of the housing authority after last meeting, did we really get any clarification as to Who funds who operates, who runs, who does anything over there? I don’t have any additional information on the portfolio list, it’s they’re supposed to report to us quarterly.

00:44:58,730	In the 2 1/2 years I’ve been here, I’ve not heard from them once. Right. So, just thought I’d ask. have any additional information on that at this point. OK. OK, County finance director in term treasurer Jacobs got Provin Building renovation funding updates, budget amendments for auditor treasurer’s office, preliminary budget review in

00:45:25,470	motion. Uh, we’re gonna, I think we’re gonna hold off on item D. We’re gonna discuss that before. Go ahead. Uh, yeah, chair of Bittner and Commissioners, uh, that, that is would be my preference is to hold off, at least on the vote, uh, to adopt the preliminary budget.

00:45:43,470	I, I’d also ask if we could please table item B, which is a budget amendment we just need to get. Clarification on, it’s a budget amendment to split the uh essentially the, the budget of the auditor treasurer’s office, but we need to get some clarification on. Um Staff We’ll work with the uh HR director on that.

00:46:04,870	OK, I, I don’t know that I, uh, uh, motion I don’t know we need a motion to table. I think we can just move that. To the next, to the next meeting. So we’ll do that. OK, thank you. Item A, uh, Provident building renovation funding updates.

00:46:28,330	The big update here is that we had, we applied for the BND infrastructure revolving loan fund, and we received a response we were not selected for the loan. Um, we didn’t receive a specific, um, reason, although I know there’s a. Like a grading system of some kind, so.

00:46:50,370	My assumption would be that we just didn’t grade in whatever, uh, high enough given the applicants for the current round. We were told that they are anticipating accepting applications again in late 2025 or uh early summer. 2026.

00:47:20,130	So the The thing with the provident funding is I, I think we were comfortable with paying with cash or reserves or ARPA money that we had on hand until, uh, maybe I’m speaking for myself, but until the 3% property tax caps took effect with HB 1176, um, I think. In this environment, from my perspective, bonding the project would be the best option for the simple fact that we may not be able to rebuild our reserves with a 3% cap, so that.

00:47:45,270	Makes bonding very appealing. Uh, however, North Dakota law restricts the issuance of, of bonds in a variety of ways. And so one of the ways they do this just as an example is to require a public vote on on debt, like a general obligation if it, like the school, the school, uh, board, for example, when they

00:48:03,470	build a new building, typically it goes to a vote and then that becomes actually a levy on the taxpayer. Um There appear to be appear to be some options to pay for bonds out of an appropriation, um, with limited, but, but they’re limited to 5 years.

00:48:27,530	And so that wouldn’t necessarily require, um, A vote, but I think the idea here is that when you’re not doing some huge project like building $100 million school. You know, you’re probably not going to be able to accomplish that in 5 years. Um, so I just wanted to just, just point out that we are working with Bond council.

00:48:42,870	We’ve been working with, um, collier since August of last year, specifically on bonding the provident building, but I just wanted to summarize that, in my opinion, bonding is the best option, but there may be some restrictions on how we go about that and how much we’re able to do. I did.

00:49:02,130	I have an email, um, conversation going on right now with Bond council, and so. Hopefully at the next meeting we have some idea of what we can do immediately, uh, if we choose to bond, and that may require Maybe putting something on the budget, for example, so we would have something on the preliminary

00:49:24,470	budget, um, maybe just as a failsafe, um. That could come off at the at the final budget, but, but there may be something that needs to go on the budget this year. If we decide to move forward with bonding. We, we have other resources available as we’ve talked about.

00:49:42,600	We’ve still got $6 million in ARPA funding and so. Um Depending on how the conversation goes with Bond council. Like I said, we may need to be able, may need to have to, to find some room in the budget this year, uh. At this point I can pause and stand for any questions. OK.

00:49:59,870	Uh, Comm, is there any questions on that, uh? Funding at this point. OK, I think we’re gonna move that item again to the, to the next, the agenda for the next county Commission meeting, and we’ll. Have more details by then, right? OK.

00:50:19,470	But just to reiterate, I mean, the, the funding we, we have the funds available. This issue of bonds. Arose at the 11th hour from my perspective because of this HB 1176, so I just wanted to clarify that this is, it’s not a case that we don’t know how we’re gonna fund this.

00:50:35,430	We do know how we’re gonna, we, well we don’t know how we’re gonna find it, but only because of this change in the law. We were always prepared to fund it. This way, but now this way might look what might make more sense. Uh I, geez, I guess that takes us to the preliminary budget review already. Skipping right over I B.

00:50:55,800	Yeah So this is a case, um, as, as Chair Bitner mentioned, uh, I had asked him to please hold off on the vote until the next regular meeting of the Burley County Commission. We have until August 10th to finalize our preliminary budget, but The, the last two weeks since we, uh, were since I was appointed interim treasurer.

00:51:19,830	It’s just been a, it’s just been hectic, frankly. Um, so there’s some things in the budget that we need to to include that aren’t there some required schedules, things like that. So I would. Happily take the next 2 weeks to.

00:51:39,000	To, uh, to go through the budget, get everything we’re required to have in there, review everything, and then we will get. And, and updated copy to the 5 of you in advance of the meeting, but I think If you wish it would be appropriate to discuss the budget, uh, this morning since that’s what we’re here to do. Yeah.

00:52:01,100	Um And we’ve got a fair amount of staff in the room if they wanted to provide any kind of clarification because I know I, I have it here like one. 23456767 or 8 pages of, of, of questions with the budget, and you’re probably going to want to hand that off to you so that.

00:52:23,870	So, I don’t, I don’t need to discuss that at this point because it’s um. And irrelevant, but does anybody, I guess, um, we’ll just, we should just open it up to any staff that wants to provide clarification on any of the budget items, um, that may be coming up with these questions.

00:52:42,130	Um, I know there’s stuff that’s been missing in the budget, for example, one was, um, I think there was a salary line item missing from, uh, Um, NDSU extension. Budget And various things like that. Anybody wanna? I don’t see anybody jumping up.

00:53:09,270	Can I, can I just interject here, uh, the lay of the land, I spent some time during the last couple of days, going over our 2025 performance estimating where our year end is going to land in terms of revenues and expenditures and in the general fund, it looks to me like we, we will be about flat, so what the revenues that we’re bringing bringing in this year should be sufficient to cover our expenditures, so we should

00:53:24,730	finish without, uh, dipping into our fund balance. We may even add a little bit to the fund balance. I would not anticipate as much as last year, and then on the special revenue funds, uh, just broadly conceived, it seems to be the same thing, our revenues in those funds a highway, uh, you

00:53:41,270	know, unorganized townships, all those things, the revenues are appear to be sufficient to cover the expenditures during this year and we might even add a little bit in some of those funds. So I think financially um we’re going to finish the year, uh, in a good place. That’s what we love to hear. Mr.

00:53:59,070	Chair Comm Munsen, and this is actually a question for the chair or, or Lee as well, uh, so we had our our 50% meeting uh with the engineers on the Kimball Bottom boat ramp remodel to comply with the core concerns for a ramp and the and the, the bank stabilization.

00:54:26,670	So I have money in my budget for that. However, and this is a question for Lee. In the conversations with them at our meeting last week. They’re anticipating 2.5 years. To get a permit Once we finalize The construction method needed. I certainly don’t need that money in this year’s budget. If it’s going to be 2.

00:54:51,800	5 years out for the permit. So, how do you, Lee and I’ve talked a little bit about, um, uh, an improvement fund or you know capital improvement fund and so is it something where you put some money aside each year into that so that you have it later to spend.

00:55:09,400	Do we put in our budget? 2 years from now instead of now. Um Rough engineer’s estimate is between 800 and a million. With Engineers’s estimate about 50% covered by Um, various other organizations that we can apply for grants and so on and so forth, so we’re still looking at a half a million dollars.

00:55:34,570	Of Burleigh County money to to repair that. So in your research and, and, and the conversation amongst us, how do we plan for something like that. Well, I think obviously the best answer is capital improvement budget. Yes. You know. Putting up, putting a an amount.

00:55:59,170	towards that every year with the goal of having some money at the, at the end. This 3% cap is really the elephant in the room right now. Well, and as we talked in, in the budget hearing process, you know, the The Capital Improvement fund is not one that we have.

00:56:19,870	And so it is an option for us to initiate it this year, uh, and it also at that point gives us the. Opportunity to create. A meal or or a a a tax collected uh for that. I thought we already initiated that. I thought so too, but Lee said we hadn’t. We have a fund, but we have, we don’t have a levy. We don’t have a levy, yeah.

00:56:41,300	So, The question is do we need to discuss. And I’ll, I’ll work with him and Lee, Lee and I talked even as an option and, and for you, Mr. Chair, everybody’s capital improvements could come out of their individual budgets and go into a capital improvement fund that the entire county could

00:57:00,070	draw from as an example. Mhm Just different things that we talked about during that, that day of of preliminary budget stuff. Well, there’s, there’s quite a few things that could That could or should be part of that.

00:57:17,130	For example, as you’re going through the budget, how many of these have, um, furniture and, you know. If that, yeah. Furniture Pictures and equipment, you know, I mean that, that seems to be a.

00:57:37,270	Seems like it would make sense, and we’ve talked about it over the last year or two to, you know, eventually all uh copiers coming out of everybody’s individual budget, putting it into one central contract, and I think staff is working towards that slowly as contracts are coming up, um. There’s a lot of things that have been refined in this budget over the last couple of years, and it’s just Now this 3%. Forces us to do. More, I think.

00:57:57,130	You know, as I told my portfolios, we’re no longer talking about a one year budget. We have to think 2345 years down the road, you know, uh, we can’t put a A sheriff’s car in this year. And then not put it in next year.

00:58:14,770	You know, we have to make sure we try to keep our budgets as level as possible moving forward because we can’t handle the, the hills and valleys anymore. Right. Um, Lee, I had a kind of just a generic question, um, as far as the compilation of the budget at this point, um. What are we looking at as far as the percentage.

00:58:36,600	Um, related to that 3% cap. There’s, there’s been some substantial Numbers thrown around. And I’m wondering how it’s Looking so far to you. I think when I looked at that, I was about 4 or 5% over last year for the entire county budget general fund and special revenue funds. OK, thank you.

00:58:56,830	That is the budget. I mean the budget increase, that’s not necessarily property taxes, you know, levied in dollars. Mr. Chair, Comm Woodcock. What’s the The sales tax collection where going towards our, our, Property tax bill. Is any of that 2% going to be applied to the 2026 budget.

00:59:19,830	Or we’ve not at that point where we can fund it. This, uh, we will use sales taxes to fund the 2026 budget, I believe, yeah. We, we don’t have the amount yet. Right. We have 9 months’ worth of collections that we can apply. We just don’t have that final number yet. Yeah.

00:59:39,570	And that’s coming in at about how much a month? Well, we, we’re getting 2 million, uh, tomorrow, so we are trending after the 2 million we’re trending down 4% over last year, uh, so that’s, that’s not great. It goes up and down.

00:59:55,670	The trend over time has been up by maybe like one or 1 to 2% uh per year when you at the last 10 years, but there’s some years in there that are. From a data perspective, just. We, we can’t really use them.

01:00:16,900	The COVID year it doesn’t really count the, there was a year where we added online sales tax, so that’s, that doesn’t really count as far as the data analysis goes, um. But we are, we are coming in at a 4% under last year. That’s the, that’s the, the tough. Tough news.

01:00:38,230	Did you have any conversations with HR about what part of the increase is directly relative to salaries and benefits for their employees. Not of the increased specifically, I typically we’re about 70% salaries and benefits, um. I would have to imagine that a significant part of that, I mean, if we’re 70% and we have a.

01:01:01,200	You know, 4% increase, and I guess that would be about 3% would be uh salaries and benefits, so, uh, my, my hunch is that salaries and benefits alone would push us very close to the 3% over last year. That’s why I ask. We’re going to have to look real closely at that. Because before we talk about any increases in any budget items whether it’s the riverfront or or.

01:01:18,930	Any other thing. We have to first take care of the employees. Burley County. OK, any other, any other, um, thing you want to put in there on the budget review.

01:01:34,300	I know I have, You know, and I’ll get with you on this, this bunch of questions I have, so. Until we get a chance for Lee to review and prepare his analysis. You really can’t do a lot with this. No, I, I think it’s, I, I, I think there’s Certainly much more work to go on that. Yeah. I just appreciate the. The Effort. I know when Lee’s calling me on Saturday. Yes.

01:01:57,200	And then I get an e-mail from him on Sunday. He’s invested, yeah. Well, I thank you very much for that reason I didn’t call him over the weekend here, because I knew he was gonna be in work and I thought, he doesn’t need me.

01:02:14,330	Thanks for your commitment to that I would imagine a lot of the department heads, um, budget that that they have submitted would be, would be fine to talk about, uh, just as far as getting an understanding of what they’re, what they have in mind, what they’re an. But yeah, the big picture stuff. Um, we’ll know more. And in a week or two.

01:02:35,130	Well, I I think working within our portfolios and staff. I think we all have a pretty good understanding of what our individual um. Portfolios where they’re at with their budgets, so. I don’t know that there’s any, Comm Woodcock. What’s our timeline on the dates we have to get things done.

01:02:56,530	September 5th is the final budget has to be approved, is that correct? September 5th August. Well, for the preliminary budget, we have September. Early August. September 15th, I’m sorry. 15th. So, the 10th, then, I’m hearing you correctly, 15th and then I believe October 10th is like the last day that you can have your hearing. OK.

01:03:15,330	So we do have time, in other words, if we put, I, we had a budget meeting scheduled. I hate to not get anything accomplished today and move it down the road two more weeks, that’s. Hate to waste our time here. We’ve got everybody here. If you have any specific things you wanna, you wanna talk about, Comm.

01:03:34,400	I’ve gone over my portfolio portfolios with all of the department heads and I see nothing major. Everything’s pretty much the same, um, a couple minor changes, but, My major one is the. Is the boat ramp to make sure we have a, a plan moving forward. Otherwise everything else turned out quite well. Mr.

01:03:54,300	Schwab, anything you want to add to that? OK, outside of the 7 or 8 pages of questions I have, which is not something we need to talk about right now that I, because there’s It’s just confusing enough stuff that it’s no point in talking about it now. Oh Natal Lee, I think that’s it for. Thank you.

01:04:16,600	Thank you, Mr. Chair, if I can, one little item as long as we’re talking about budget, you and I discussed it at the beginning of the meeting. I would propose for next year. That our preliminary budget is Monday at a regular scheduled meeting, not a full day. And have Tuesday as a backup.

01:04:37,330	If that makes sense to all the commissioners rather than scheduling two full days. I’d rather work till 11 o’clock at night on Monday and get it all done if we have to. Rather than taking a full day. I agree, Comm, so I’m.

01:04:57,800	This, um, adding meetings during the day is, is pretty challenging for those of us that Um Have to be somewhere else too. So just to verify, you want to be at 5 o’clock at a regular, regularly scheduled meeting 4 o’clock I have an extra hour. We don’t want to be here till midnight either. I think we could be flexible on that. Yeah. Yeah. I just don’t.

01:05:17,130	You’re talking about next year, not this. Right, next year. I don’t. See, for example, I, I had, I had a difficult time reviewing the bills because I had no problems being on time, but traffic held me. I’m just getting here. And, you know, that.

01:05:34,230	Anyway, so Little extra time for next year, let’s schedule it in the in the late afternoon evening. Whether it’s 4 or 5. Yeah. Uh, rather than the whole day. OK. Thank you. Yeah. OK. State’s attorney lawyer opioid litigation Commission may enter executive session to discuss the opioid litigation percent to North Dakota Centric Code 44-04-19.12.

01:06:09,800	Do you uh So I had sent the commission a packet of information regarding whether or not you want to join in the settlement, which is the recommendation or not, so that’s the ultimate vote. If you have any questions regarding what that means or or um where we would go with that litigation, that’s when we would enter executive session talking about negotiations, um, regarding that lawsuit, but, um,

01:06:25,930	if there aren’t any questions regarding the materials that I had sent, um, I would recommend joining that settlement. The Comm, I, I had reviewed a fair amount of that information, and I see no problem with joining the. I would move to join the settlement. Comm.

01:06:46,830	What what do you mean by joining the settlement? What does that takes that decision making away from the commission, puts it on if you have questions, I would recommend we go into Executive sessions so I can lay out what, um, our litigation directives could be, and then you can make a decision from there. I think we should. I, I really do.

01:07:08,030	I, we don’t want to kick the can down the road anymore. We’re already doing it with our budget, so I’d assume we go to executive session and get this hashed and finished, finished out. I, I thought it was pretty clear too. Me, but that’s OK. I can do that. You do? Yeah.

01:07:29,370	OK, well, Then we will, um, I withdraw my second. OK. Um I Re off the, the legals. Yeah. There have to be a motion to enter executive session. Moved to join move to uh Go into executive session. Pursuant to the century code that’s listed on the agenda pursuant to the century code 44-04-19.1, subsection 2.

01:08:07,570	OK, we have a motion to second any further discussion. Col. Comm Schwab? Yes. Comm Woodcoxox? Yes. Comm Munsen. Yes. Chair Binner? No. Just for giggles. Um, now, I wanted, I wanted to point out we moved item 16 up ahead of the agenda. One other item left before we Adjourn would be other business.

01:08:30,270	Is there any other business that, um, we would want to talk about after the special session. The reason I’m mentioning that is we probably don’t have to have staff wait around.

01:08:48,430	You know If you want to get back to work and get going, I think that would be fine, Comm Schwab, on a special session, who is going to be allowed in the room. That’s my question. Uh, that, that would be a question for Julie. That would be the commissioners myself and the auditor to, um, take the recording and keep the record. No other department heads. Nope. That’s correct. OK.

01:09:13,930	OK, um, I’ll save the adjournment until, um, after the, uh, Yeah. Yeah, the executive session. Other than that, I think staff, you can go ahead and go back to work and whatnot. And uh, we’ll